Sounds like volunteers are in short supply for this campaign!

Get paid in advance, kids!

Maybe it is because his views are not in the open so many volunteers don't know what they would be signing up for.

Oh, his views are out in the open.

He's listed as a member of the Council For National Policy, a secretive group that advocates the overthrow of the Constitution of the United States and made up of some of the most crooked, sordid and politically extremist names in politics today. If those are the sorts of people and causes Foy supports then everyone should know.

FARMER FOY,
You should know it is against the Law to offer someone a government job for working on your campaign. But then again I guess you would need to know something about government and the Law.

Need a Job, or can I call you Mr. Job do you care to prove that you are right? I want a link.

NNaJ: All you need to do is call the County's Elections Commissioner and ask. However, I think NaJ
is correct and in some states (I don't know about California) such an offer, if proven, is grounds for removing the offending candidate from the ballot.

If I was Foy I'd start looking for a new campaign manager, pronto!

I don't see anywhere in the job description where it promises a future job on staff. Campaign staff yes, Supervisor staff, no.

Question: Was the copy on the link provided above, under "hiring", altered to remove the suggestion of a govt job being offered? The Joe Phair copy provided above is different than the link's.

Here is the current job description:

Campaign Positions for Peter Foy for Supervisor Available!
The campaign for Peter Foy, a candidate for Ventura County supervisor seeks to hire at the entry level. This is a paid position available on a full or part-time basis. It is ideal for current college students or recent graduates looking to break into the field of politics.

Duties include opposition research, voter contact, logistics planning and grass roots candidate promotion. We are looking for smart, motivated people whom are looking to break into politics and help us finish the job. Our campaign will be coordinating with major state-wide races such as the Schwarzenegger campaign for governor. It is a short-term position lasting just over two months. Please send a resume to the e-mail address displayed below.

Joseph B. Phair
Peter Foy for Ventura County Supervisor
Campaign Manager
joe@coronadocommunications.com
office: 805.703.8057 x151
Cell: 415.533.3761

Notice opposition research? Foy is trying to pay young people to find dirt on Dantona? I wonder of all the people that said Dantona played unfair in the first round will say the samething now that Foy is trying to pay young people to do his dirty work?

The dirty work started when Foy's supporters came up with the WMI/Mikels stealth plan and were likely the instigators of the Tuscon scandal and other issues. But Foy's got plenty of scandals of his own and he that lives in a glass house should have not thrown the first rock.

Here's what California election code says about the subject (from the Director of California Neighborhood Union, a Ventura County political action commitee). Note Strickland's views on the issue and then imagine what pressures were brought to bear to make the man switch his endorsement from Jim Dantona to Peter Foy.

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CALIFORNIA ELECTIONS CODE
Section 18520. A person shall not directly or through another person give,
offer, or promise any office, place, or employment, or promise to procure or
endeavor to procure any office, place, or employment to or for any voter, or
to or for any other person, in order to induce that voter at any election
to:
(a) Refrain from voting.
(b) Vote for any particular person.
(c) Refrain from voting for any particular person.
A violation of any of the provisions of this section shall be punishable by
imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years.
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Now, strictly speaking, I guess Foy doesn't fall into this 16-month trap,
since he's not technically telling prospective employees that they have to
vote for him. (Though I think that if you called looking for a job, they'd
probably explain that they wouldn't hire you if you didn't support Foy.)

Incidentally, Oregon law goes further, and basically says the same thing,
but expands it to encompass voting, volunteering, working for, donating,
etc... so a candidate can't say, "I don't care whether you vote for me, but
give me $1000 and I'll get you a job in my legislative office.

(Funny enough, Assemblyman Tony Strickland made "Cutting Political
Patronage" a "high priority" in a Davis-era article that he wrote:
http://www.politicalvanguard.com/?id=tonystrickland#article5 , but seems
keen on endorsing Foy, who is handing out public jobs on his website.)

HOWEVER... In a recent Sacramento Bee article (Sept 3), Tony Quinn wrote
that California has no political patronage system, which leads me to think
that there is a restriction at least in Administrative Rule, even if not in
Law. I'm still looking. California Code Section 19175.3 makes it clear
that "political patronage" is not a valid means of hiring (or
non-consideration) for certain positions, but the Code fails to define the
term.

CalUnion, 9/9/06

Now ask yourself this: would you trust our County's administration to a man who can't even run his own campaign without running bungling his way into a felony?

Is Foy running a grassroots campaign or paying for an astroturf race?

Neither, he's just trying to sod over the septic tank.

The ad was run by a polical campaign company, not Foy. Foy did not promise anyone a job if he wins. The political campaign company MAY hire anyone they wish once the campaign is over, and if someone proves themselves during the Foy campaign, they might indicate to prospective employers that they are worth hiring.

This whole string is crazies talking crazy, desperately, among themselves.

On GS comment about Foy's camp starting the WM and Tucson BS, that was purely and undeniably started by Dantona, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Foy's campaign mentioned anything about either fabricated matter.

Clearly GS is trying to deflect community-wide criticism of Dantona for running a negative campaign, one that started with harshly attacking full-page ads in the Star in December 2005. Dantona has three full months worth of a head start on Foy on everything.

And still lost to Foy by 6 points.

There are hundreds of us who know everything about Dantona's negative campaign, the most negative campaign EVER in this community's history, bar none. And we will be sure to remind everyone about that FACT in coming weeks, over and over.

Is that kind of hair-splitting about what's technically proper and who's technically responsible the kind of management style that Foy will bring to Ventura County?

As I understand the previous comment, a candidate's campaign isn't responsible for anything that their consulting firm does?

Secondly, let's get something clear... the ad wasn't suggesting that a consulting firm would hire good staffers... it said that they would try to place them into "legislative positions." Those are jobs that taxpayers pay for, and they've been used as a lure in order to get people into the Foy camp. (I think it certainly falls into the "promise to endeavor to procure employment" clause in California Code that candidates are warned against.)

Yes, Foy is probably legally in the clear. But I'm not voting for a candidate who walks that close to the line and makes a habit of wriggling of responsibility through technicalities.

Getting Real Once Again: Firstly, the publisher of www.capoliticalnews.com is indeed a Foy supporter and the site covered Mikels' involvement with WMI prior to April 4, when I was forwarded the info from someone they emailed it to. I hadn't heard anything about the issue prior to April 4. The Dantona campaign picked up on the matter after April 4. So please try to get your "facts" in order before making claims you can't back up.

Secondly, just because Foy's campaign remained silent on this and other issues while their supporters carried on the whisper campaigns that started the fire under Mikels doesn't make them blameless of anything. It makes them HYPOCRITES, the worst sort of candidate for office!

And speaking of HYPOCRITES, I hear Farmer Foy, who promised to never accept any money from developers, is actually getting fundraising support FROM developers. Talk about splitting hairs!

Mr. Gs, any evidence of that? I'd hope you wouldn't toss hand grenades without looking first.

Not tossing hand grenades, just saying there're some flying through the air out there.

Mr. "slow growth" Dantona took lots of money from developers and contractors. Who exactly is the Voit Company?? What exactly do they want???

And let's not forget the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dollars Mr. Dantona made through the years as a lobbyist for developers. Just look at his business web site and list of clients. A Who's Who list of major developers in this region. Yikes.

I like how gs the bs conveniently steered clear of this statement:

"There are hundreds of us who know everything about Dantona's negative campaign, the most negative campaign EVER in this community's history, bar none. And we will be sure to remind everyone about that FACT in coming weeks, over and over."

Touching a raw nerve, eh bs?

Not at all. Now why don't you enlighten us as to WHAT was so negative about Dantona's campaign. Or are you one of those who believe a candidate's conduct and public agenda AREN'T legitimate areas of discussion?

Myself, I believe that when a candidate claims one thing and then does the opposite, like promising to never take any money from deveklopers yet allowing developers to stage fundraisers for him, is not just hypocritical...it smacks of untrustworthiness of the worst sort in a public servant.

So tell us WHAT was so negative about the campaign.

Do you have proof a developer held a fund raiser? Maybe an invitation you can post?