Looks like it might take another week to finish. Is this normal for Ventura County? Is it normal for California?

I know that most races will not change but I feel bad for the candidates not knowing 100 percent the outcome.

Apparently other sources also did not understand the unique way Ventura reports votes.

Brian,
I understand typos as I too type very fast. That was not my point. My point is this. Arent you a journalist that posts these blogs? I understand everyone has there opinions, but you were the first one to wake up and post a "Dantona wins!" blog. I read your first entry, it said, "dantona wins,dantona wins,dantona wins!" Are we going to see a "Peter Foy wins" with the same type of glee?

And why say anything about this being non partisan? arent you again the guy who said why he is voting for dantona and mentioned Peter Foy being a right wing radicle?

Listen, I dont mean to attack, or say anything negative towards your charecter. The point I am trying to make is, you have been on the same, Anti-Foy campaign, based on lies about the mans charecter. YOU PRACTICALLY LEAD THEM!

Listen, if you ever hope to write for a major news paper I guess you are on the right track. Blast the good guy. IF you ever truly want to be a journalist who reports fair and balanced you have some big changes to make. Or I guess you could continue writing blog topics about why you dislike people running for office. any thoughts?

Dave, I have no interest in writing for a major newspaper. I write a blog because I wanted a discussion started about OUR community.

The entry title was called "Jim Dantona wins!"

I am sorry if the "!" offended you.

I have never claimed to be nonpartisan. In fact, I told you who I was voting for. I did that though because Peter Foy workers kept attacking me as you would say "a leader of the attacks". I am sorry that you fail to see the difference bewteen an opinion blog and the front page of a paper. I am also surprised that every campaign I have ever covered has never said I am unfair to them except for the Peter Foy campaign. Even the head of the Republican Party has said I have been fair.

I have given Peter Foy every chance to have every one of is press releases posted here. He doesn't send them. He did have his staff send in one video, and I am thankful for that. But how hard is it to add "CC" to an e-mail?

I think Peter Foy is outside the mainstream, but I don't recall calling him a right wing radical.

Peter Foy's groupies are obsessed with lumping all of their enemies together. Didn't you read the entry when I said some of Jom Dantona's supporters when overboard? Thoughts?

Will I post with glee when/if/most likely Peter Foy wins? No.

1. Counting votes for a few weeks kind of kills the momentum. At this point it is a slow process to an almost already known point. When I posted Jim Dantona wins! I was surprised. Weren't you? If at the end of another week Peter Foy is still ahead I won't be surprised, will you? Should I post Gallegly wins! I think that would be a crime against English teachers everywhere and diminish the use of ! in the world.

2. I didn't vote for him and I posted why in a public forum. Why would I be thrilled that a candidate I voted for didn't win?

Anyways, thanks for the feedback. I am fair, but I can't be balanced when Peter Foy refuses to send in his stuff just like he has from the moment he declared. I will be looking forward to the progress he can make on the county board in the realms of ethics reforms, public safety, and term limits. But as long as his team keeps attacking the messanger, I think you guys are missing the point.

You say I am on an anti-Foy campaign because of lies based about his character?

I said I voted for Jim Dantona because of several issues that had nothing to do with Peter Foy. I am sorry you don't believe that anyone would vote for a candidate based off of issues like SOAR, Rocketdyne, and community input (Knolls), but many people did.

Dave, Brian has done an excellent job in being non-biased during this election season. When the "Dantona Wins" thread was posted, it was not known that 10,000's of absentee ballots were left to be counted.

Also, it is pretty clear that Brian is presenting a community blog, not a newspaper so there is no expectation of journalism. None of us are jounalists. We are for the most part political junkies and/or concerned citizens.

I tip my hat to Brian for what he is trying to accomplish. I think you are being a little harsh on him.

Katie, thanks for adding to the chorus of voices saying this website is fair. We have left, right, and center supporters all saying the same thing. Seems like it is only Foy supporters that think everyone is after them.

Dave, sorry I forgot to answer the other part of your question.

The Ca Sec. of State said the race was nonpartisan. That is why on the elections return page is says NP next to Foy and Dantona.

I am interested in why we have nonpartisan seats if the local parties send out mailers to their members attacking the other guy and supporting their candidate based off of his party membership. It seems like a charade and maybe we should just stop pretending.

If Foy was a Democrat and Dantona a Republican but had all the same beliefs/issues I think this race would of been different. It seems party was very important in a nonpartisan race. Is that a god thing? I will wait to hear from Mike and Laura.

Brian, you missed the Keith Richman event last night (which was outstanding) but one of the items he spoke about was the need for redistricting (which will have to be driven externally via the initiative process). He said that another consideration would be to make all the state seats non-partisan. Not that this would be such a great solution, but at least candidates would be forced to consider voters from all parties in their pitches.

He and everyone in the room pretty much agreed that the current system was broken and our representatives were unduly influenced by special interest groups (including unions, gaming tribes, etc). He also said because of the closed primaries, we were now ending up with candidates that represented the extremes of both parties. He pointed out that the primaries earlier in the year were more important than the general election in November because it was the only time citizens actually could make a choice regarding candidates. Once the primaries were over, safe districting kicked in and the game was over. Or in Keith's situation, the more "extreme" Republican candidate was elected and not suprisingly lost in the general election.

The upcoming 2008 elections will be very, very interesting and already people are knocking themselves out getting positioned for it.

Dennert, you have done, and continue to do, a valuable public service with your blog. A zeolot you are not; a young man with an open mind and a committment to our community you are. Please don't apologize again.

Here's the reason why the Foy/Dantona race was so ugly. People like Duane Dichiara are behind it. He's been laying low until it looked like his client, Peter Foy, might win. Now he posted the following on the right-wing FlashReport blog. What a nice guy.

I can't wait to see the campaign finance reporting for all of the money Mike Osborn raised and spent on behalf of the candidates. Tens of thousands of dollars raised and spent on Peter Foy's campaign. You got it right from the horse's mouth.

I'm particularly irked with the attack on Barbra Williamson - it is uncalled for and unjust. Obviously she got Duane's knickers in a twist over something, and his sophmoric response is completely unprofessional. If Peter Foy is reading this, I call upon him to apologize to Barbra on behalf of his campaign manager.

The Mother of All Battles
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by Duane Dichiara - San Diego County (bio) (email)(print) 11-16-2006 12:19 pm

Since we are short a Central Coast correspondent, and I've spent some time over the last several months working races there, I thought I'd pick up some of the slack. In Ventura County 'The Mother of All Supervisorial Battles' between Republican Peter Foy (disclosure: Coronado Communications client) and Democrat Jim Dantona appears to be coming to close as the remaining absentee votes are counted. On Election Eve Dantona led by a 300 vote margin... a lead which has deteriorated into a 700 vote deficit with about 40,000 votes counted and a couple thousand left to count.

Mike Osborn/Ventura County Republican Party were significant winners in this brawl. As long as I can remember the Ventura County Republican Party has been at best useless. Several weeks before the November Election Mike Osborn was elected Chairman and immediately took steps to make the organization relevant. In short, he actually raised and spent money to help elect his local candidates. Chairman Osborn's biggest victory was clearly Peter Foy, where the Party spent tens of thousands of dollars making sure the seat would be held by a Republican as opposed to a partisan liberal Democrat. The biggest perks of this victory is that donors will now trust the local Republican Party, the Committee itself with some victories under their belt can now plan and work towards an even stronger showing next time instead of eating one another alive, and local officials are going to want to help.

One significant loser was Simi Valley City Councilwoman Barbara Williamson. A registered Republican with a long relationship with Dantona, she was his most aggressive supporter. She decided to go to the mat on this one, including helping put together negative 'independent' expenditures against Foy. Williamson has a decidedly mixed reputation in her Simi Valley hometown. She likes to play hardball. The problem is she proved to be playing out of her league, and near the end of the campaign her own allies and friends were leaking like tin cans Christmas morning after a ten year old kid gets a new Daisy BB gun. Note to Barbara: when you rule by fear there are always 'friends' just waiting for you to slip.

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This is the biggest bunch of baloney I have ever read in my life. Peter Foy should have had a very decisive victory given the demographics and all the money that was laundered through the VCRCC. Instead, he and you, Duane, participated in a squeaker. I don't know how you managed that - it takes real talent.

And your comments regarding Mike Osborn and Barbra Williamson are crack-pipe material. Completely erroneous and laughable. I'm forwarding them to my good friends right now. I particularly like the ominous foreshadowing in your last line.

But the good news is that you did a disclaimer - unlike your previous columns on Ventura County.

Posted by Katie Teague at November 17, 2006 3:10pm

Good 'ole Duane Dichiara and Mike Osborn - spreading venom and hate throughout the land. It remains to be seen whether Mike Osborn and his Treasurer Clark Johnson handled all the monies being funneled through the county party properly. I hope for the sake of the party they did. The county party practically gave Mike Osborn a blank check - allowing him to spend any "extraordinary" income outside the budget, all by himself on "member communications." That was the tens of thousands Duane was talking about. And I understand Osborn awarded without bid process, a contract for collateral materials to a member of his own Central Committee! In the age of Sarbanes-Oxley, I wonder why the board would give up its oversight responsibilities and "trust" Mike to handle everything. Can you say fiduciary?

Katie,
I found out a long time ago, that weak are afraid of strong women....The world is full of weak men, Mr. Dichiara is one of many..

I'm confident that Peter Foy is a better man than his campaign manager and will do the right thing and apologize to you Barbara.

I'm also confident he will get the IE expenditures squared away because I don't think they are IE's when the campaign manager is coordinating them.

Is there a good reason Osbourne made the campaign partisan? The reformers in California history wanted campaigns like this to be nonpartisan. Why go against that? There must be a good reason. I am sure that he has a reason to be against Hiram Johnson.

Brian,

There are a lot of reasons why "partisan political hacks" get involved in non-partisan races.

I can only speak for myself, so first and foremost, I love my community and want to see people who share my values and beliefs elected to all levels of government. Critical thinking and values such as environmental protection, corporate responsibility, improving education, maintaining infrastructure and true fiscal responsibility aren't applicable just at the state or national level. People elected to school boards, water boards, city councils, etc. make decisions that affect our local communities every single day.

Furthermore, your best future candidates for "partisan" races often come from these lower level offices. Think about it...they have name recognition in the community, experience running a campaign, proven ability to raise money and have shown that they can effectively govern and negotiate their way through the political process, on at least a local level. These people are your "farm team".

A perfect example is Julia Brownley, newly elected to the 41st Assembly District. She served three terms on the Santa Monica?Malibu School Board and was Board President three times.

You're going to find people who have a passion for public service in these local offices, and it can translate into running for other positions.

I cannot wait to see the reforms that Foy will make. I will also be thrilled to see who is corrupt. Since he ran against corruption and the need for ethics reforms I am waiting to see if he thinks the board he will work with is corrupt or if it was the outgoing supervisor.

Wait, didn't the outgoing supervisor endorse him? I guess it can't be that person. I hope Parks, Bennett, Flynn and Long know that Foy is looking to expose their ethical lapses. I hope the first meeting has more fireworks then Rotary puts on every year.

I bet Peter Foy passes no ethics reforms. For a solution there must be a problem and I doubt he will ever investigate or name names.

Not surprising to hear Cornejo and Teague, two people who, while they were in power, drove the VCRCC into irrelevance, complain when the Committee is actually accomplishing something. It appears that the new leadership has been more active and raised more money in a few short weeks than Cornejo and her crew was able to do in their entire 5 year tenure.

As to the Foy/Dantona race Teague exposes her total lack of knowlege regarding politics in general and the 4th District race in particular. Dantona attempted to portray himself as anything but a Demcrat, even taking out spots on such slates as "Continuing the Reagan Revolution," and the "Republican Voter's Guide." He preceded to try and move even futher from his roots by proclaiming to be pro-gun rights and anti-tax. In the end it appears that many were fooled about who the Republican really was. Fortunately for the 4th District the real Republican won. Foy will do a fine job.

But while we're at it what races did the CAPC make a difference in? Seems they're 3 for 12 with only the sure things winning. Not exactly a stellar performance for a group claiming such wide support.

Maybe you need to rethink the idea of standing squarely in the middle. You either stand for something or fall for anything.

If the party would of nominated Claude Parrish instead of a loser moderate like Richman maybe we Republicans could of won something besides re-electing a liberal governor.

I am really glad that we have made more local races partisan. I can't wait until we have a primary battle for who shall serve the right wing agenda on everything from park board (too many liberal swings) to school board ( they don't support the president enough). Maybe we can really find out if the local 6th grade class elections have some liberals to track down.

I am glad voter knows that deep down Jim Dantona really wants to grab everyone's guns. He is a Democrat, so there is a law somewhere that he must be anti-gun.

Until then it will be Claude-bbering time for the Rino's and other moderates!

Voter - you would have more credibility if you used your real name. But just for the record, I was never "in power" with the Ventura County Central Committee. I wasn't elected. I did serve as a alternate for a few months and but did not cast a single vote. In short, I was just your average Republican constituent and will continue to be your average Republican constituent and attend the meetings like I always have for the last three years. These are public meetings and I encourage all Republicans to attend and see how their elected Central Committee representatives conduct themselves.

I don't have a dog in the Foy/Dantona race - I live in Camarillo.

Re: The money going through the Central Committee now? That's a very good question. I'm sure all the Republican candidates wonder where their share went during this past election. Oh, I forgot - most of them didn't get any. In fact, some of the money was used to campaign against solid Republicans that were running. And who is ponying up $$$ now? Well, $10K from a guy in Houston, lots of money from right-wing religious extremists and a fair amount from developers and people in the construction industry. And where is all the money going? The pockets of a newly elected Central Committee member, some right-wing candidates and according to Foy's campaign manager, Foy. And you think this is a good direction for the Ventura County Republican Party? You probably think it is Arnold's fault that Republicans did so poorly in this years election. And I expect you read Steven Frank's blog. Maybe the flashreport for good measure. Try doing some critical thinking for a change.

Regarding CAPC - we are thrilled with our candidates and their performance. Many of the Republicans we supported were ones that were on the receiving end of negative slate mailers put out by Republicans Central Committee members. We were at 25%, the VCRCC was at about 48% and I'm not sure about the Dems. The difference between CAPC and VCRCC is that we can be very proud of our candidates and know that all of them ran because they wanted what was good for the community. The goal of CAPC is to promote good solid candidates from both parties. Ventura County deserves strong elected officials that aren't unduly influenced by special interest groups or fringe ideaology.

So Voter, you can defend mediocrity and corruption and religious extremism if you want - but at least have the guts to use your real name if you attack me or CAPC.

Good rebuttal, Katie!

"The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Democrats allow the poor to be corrupt, too."

Any comments on this statement by Oscar Levant that I came across today?

Oscar Levant??? The Cynic Laureate of American Society?? The breadth of your intellectual wanderings never ceases to amaze me! Wasn't he the "great lack of character" contained in a flabby body?

I'm not certain who said something to the effect of " If Republicans stop lying about us (Dems) we'll stop telling the truth about them." I'm sure it wasn't Levant.

Duane Dichiara, an out of town political hack hired by Foy, has the nerve to attack our local Councilmember Barbra Williamson. But nerve is probably the only strength Dichiara has. He surely hasn't ever done a thing positive for Ventura County. I can't recall Diachiara supporting our local charities, sitting on our Boards and Commissions, keeping our City safe, our roads repaired, our parks green, our water clean, our sanitation plant working. It has always been Barbra Williamson working for our community while the Diachiaras of the world only take, take, take and spread their lies in order to try to get the next "client". Thank goodness that Diachiara lives out of our County. We are so much the better for it.

I followed this race closely as a junkie, but I dont live in VC. My observation is that politics is a tough sport and Foy-Dantona was a brawl to the finish between two decent men. Duane Dichiara guided his client to victory as he often does, and he deserves credit for that. Of course, those who lost dont like him. Katie - you're probably a bright, nice lady, but just seem a little too bitter to be credible. Loupy - what's with the anger? Are you married to Katie? Go see Borat.

Jamie, if you lived in VC you wouldn't be questioning my credibility. I'm rock solid. As far as your other speculations on me or on Loupy, it undermines the import of your post.

I'm not sure why on earth you'd be following a Supervisorial race in VC if you don't even live here. Maybe you can elaborate a little. Do you know some of the players? Have investments here in the county?

Were you happy with how the elections went in general in California?

Katie is a loyal Republican. A simple google check would prove that easily.

I think she loves her country and loves democracy. She does it out of patriotism, not cash. I am sorry that others don't act like her.

Duane Dichiara is a mercenary and not a very powerful one at that. In the valley around The Reagan library he almost lost a race to a lobbyist with connections to some of the most famous liberals around.

He gets paid to elect people, he doesn't live nor care about Ventura County.

Let me repeat:

He got paid loads of cash and almost had a Republican client lose to a lobbyist. And not just any lobbyist, but a lobbyist with connections to liberal clients. All of this took place in the home of The Reagan Library.

Maybe there are some tough races somewhere else he ran but this isn't one of them. He couldn't beat the president of the ACLU for prosecuter in Texas at this rate if his client was Clint Eastwood.

Two things strike me as laughable.

One that Katie Teague is a loyal republican. In fact she put her personal feelings for a friend ahead of what was good for the county party, opposed a recall of her friend, the old party chair, and had been attacking the VCRCC and the majority of its membership ever since. Then she helps that same friend, disgruntled recalled VCRCC Chair Cornejo, to start an organization that supports any party. Their endorsements, although they did nothing to help these candidates, ended with two Democrats and one Republican being elected. Hardly the actions of a loyal Republican.

The other joke is that Dantona packaged himself as a liberal Democrat. At the forum he was waving around pictures of the Governor and a letter from the Reagan Library like they were badges of honor. That, along with his support from Williamson and his appearance on the slates I mentioned previously, confused many of the voters about who was the Republican.

And Katie if you think I'm going to give you my name so that you can turn your attack machine on me as you have so many others, especially Republican women, you're smoking crack.

Voter:

Attack on Republican women? For the record, it was Foy (not Katie) that attacked the League of Women Voters which has largely Republican membership.

Garibaldi----non-sequitur alert---non-sequitur alert

Suggest you read more carefully.

During this campaign I thought it was the race between Dantona and Foy that was bringing out the bitterness and anger in some people who regularly participate in this forum. But now with the election behind us much of the hostility and vicious attacks continue. Which leads me to wonder whether the real issue is that we have some people in our community that are simply hate mongers who love nothing more than to tear others down.

It is pretty self-righteous to talk about how much you love our community while simultaneously practicing scorched-earth politics to rip apart anybody who opposes your "vision". That is not democracy, that is fascism. Anybody who truly cares about our community will recognize that part of what makes it great is the diversity of ideas and backgrounds of the citizens who live in it. Any person who has nothing better to do other than continually bashing "the other side" is nothing more than a self-centric jackass.

There are many good people in our community who are both liberal and conservative, republican and democrat. People have different ideas, but just because they don't agree with your own does not make them evil. The election is over, get over it and move on! Sheesh.

Sorry, Voter, that Katie Teague's dissapointed so many of you by doing the right thing by supporting her Community rather than a party that's gone extremist. After all, what are the two parties other than glorified advertising firms, selling candidates instead of new and improved dishwashing liquid?

America's gotten itself into a deep mess due to those who would place party loyalty above the well being of the Nation. God help Ventura County if that's what's happening here.

BK- You mention we have good people in out community that are liberal.

Can you name 3 you would vote for or ahve voted for?

Katie - im a longtime political junkie so i have my opinions, but your bitterness is obvious and hurts your cause, even if it's a good one. Looks like Foy will win and good luck to him. Dont worry - there's always next time.

Let's see... just last week I voted for Jerry Brown, John Chiang, Donna Prenta, Diane Feinstein, and Bill Lockyer.

Oh, but since I didn't support Jim Dantona I was routinely accused by his supporters of being a right-wing extremist. All I've ever done is take a stand against lies, personal attacks, and scorched earth politics. Yet it seems that there are many around here who will sink to any level to smear anyone who disagrees with them, while simultaneously pretending to be the vanguards of truth and justice for our community.

I'm pretty confident that my ballot has much more of a balance between candidates of both parties than many of the self proclaimed "bi-partisans" who regularly participate on this blog.

... and I would wager than a lot of the self-proclaimed bi-partisans around here vote straight ticket.

Thanks, Bubba Kidd!

I think trying to paint Katie as a Dantona supporter shows not that you are a Republican but rather a FoyBoy. Next thing we know you will call her liberal.

Does Bubba Kidd ever talk about anything besides Jim Dantona being negative? Regardless if it is true, there are so many other issues in local politics he can comment on that aren't negative.

I talk about lots of things outside of the 4th District Supervisor race. The only reason it comes up so much on this blog is because there have been a disproportionate number of threads on the topic and because those threads have been the most active on this site. I've also been outspoken on certain topics because there are some folks around here who like to shout down everyone down they disagree with, and I take exception to being bullied.

To Donna Prenta:

You're welcome. You ran a great campaign and I really appreciate you being so open on the issues and accessible to voters. Unfortunately many voters just weren't paying attention. Hopefully you'll keep at it and make another try the next election cycle.

I have always enjoyed being a Republican. The GOP in its yester years was one of compassion and courtesy...it wasn't cut throat and nasty, which it has become, especially on a local level. I have been the First VP for our local Republican Women's club, and have for the most part endorsed republican candidates,locally, statewide and on the national level. But I have to say, over the last several years, as the "crop" of young Republicans are coming to the forefront, it is a "get-even" mindset that is on their agenda and not what is good for the residents. So I for one am glad that Katie and Leslie and others have formed CAPC..because I know the vast majority of people who look to us for representation will be glad to know they just may get the best person for the job, regardless of party affilation.

Katie and I, through CAPC, hope to fill a void that has been left for the many people that are disenfranchised by their political parties, or politics in general. We really are excited by the widespread positive response we are getting, and see the political dynamics in this county changing before our eyes.
You know, for a brief period after 9/11, the country was filled with hope as we watched our leaders come together to solve our problems and cal our fears. Then it went terribly wrong fast, when the two parties realized the other party might get some sort of political advantage out of it. In a fearful environment, the two parties hugged their extremes and set us on a destructive course that does not allow for our problems to be solved. Certainly, both parties suffered in the last election, as many of their showcase candidates lost because of their extreme views.
I remind you, if the moderate Republicans, moderate Democrats and the many DTS join forces, they will be unstoppable.
P.S. Anyone that might think Katie is a bitter person does not know her. She is brilliant and funny and the hardest worker I know, and it is a priviledge to be working with her.

Since Brian wont say it I will....

FOY WINS!! FOY WINS!!

Yes it is true, the good always prevails!

Peter Foy is going to do many great things for our county. Im excited that we did not allow in the sleazy and we put in the noble!

Oh and for Barbra.... hey smart thinking on alienating Foy and his supporters... Im sure that will work out good for u! It is possible to run a campaign with out trying to drag everyone through the mud... unfortunately you learned that lesson a little too late...You could have taken the high road....Yet you decided to become the lowest of the low... Shame on you for putting his family through that.... You put all your eggs into the wrong basket sweetie.

Bye bye Barbra!!!!!!!!

To paraphrase Beavis : " Are you threatining someone?"

Sounds like Ken is going to run against Barbra Willimson. I think the thing we least need is a race based off of insider baseball. Ken sounds like his main platform will be revenge. I am sure he will add something about public safety and being a Republican. Now if we can only find out what he has done for this county? Ken do you belong to even one local service organization?

Also, now that it appears Foy will be taking office who is the corrupt member of the county board? Peter Foy said we need ethics reforms but yet he hasn't said which one of the current supervisors needs to be watched. It wasn't the one that endorsed him as that would be weird for him to call his supporters corrupt.

Ken, who is it? If I meet Linda Parks do I need to watch my wallet? Is it Steve Bennett? Last meeting he was looking at my lap top. Should I be nervous?

Why can't you answer a simple question?

I hope you enjoy your new staff job in OUR community.

I have another question for Ken.

Why don't you ever comment on anything but Peter Foy? It seems you don't care about cable services, immigration reform, ROCKETDYNE, traffic, the sign laws, our local schools, or pretty much anything except Peter Foy.

You seem like a Peter Foy partisan, not a Simi Valley supporter. Does he pay you?

Seriously, reports say people have died because of Rocketdyne. But you have no comment except to keep punching the dead horse which is the obvious trend of the absentee ballots.

Do you care about Rocketdyne?

It is sad that some people could care so much about politics but little about people. Maybe you do care and that doesn't fit you. If it doesn't fit you why don't you comment? The silence of the generations of local Republican activists that said they would look into Rocketdyne but never attended a meeting is sad.

How come even after a election the actions of a city council woman in a campaign are more important than any of this other issues.

DEAR ALL FOY SUPPORTERS,

I would like to thank all those who supported Foy, and give credit to the Dantona camp for how hard they worked, and how they turned what should of been a blowout into a close race.

Foy has won, lets lay down the arms and join now as one. Those who continue to bash Dantona stop forward progress. Barbara has said she will support Foy whole heartedly as did G.S and the Like.

FOY SUPPORTERS, rise above the petty chit-chat of the past. Celebrate your victory, and now lets get to work. I know Peter Foy and his family would not support the kind of behavior thats been on this blog.

Cheers and here's to a better future

Seems Ken has a thing for Councilmember Williamson. Ken, she isn't your type. She thinks, she speaks publically, she volunteers for the community, she stand on her issues, is loyal to her friends, doesn't hang out in the kitchen and is very active in business. No Ken, Barbra just isn't your type.

Foy's boy toy Ken writes of Barbra Williamson "Shame on you for putting his (Foy's) family through that....". Ken misses the point. It was Mr. Foy who "put his family through that". Perhaps his kids and wife weren't aware of Mr. Foy's unpaid debt, liens, lawsuits and the like. Ken shouldn't shoot the messenger. Mr. Foy developed his own history and needed to be honest about it.

By the looks of the debates going on here (and elsewhere) alot of people would rather start on the next campaign rather than tackle the issues facing Dist 4.

Fair enough, gs.
1. What is Mr. Foy's position on a General Plan Amendment/Zone Change for the "horse ranch" property in the Knolls?
2. What is Mr. Foy's position on soil/groundwater clean-up of the Rocketdyne property with respect to DOE vs EPA standards?
3. Does the east County deserve a courthouse where jurors can respond when called for service?
4. We have heard so much about more money for the Sheriff, but no mention of the fact that criminal cases are being dumped every day because the Ventura Courthouse is swamped. What will Mr. Foy do to expand Courthouse facilities?

How can we get a court house? Do you really think Foy can work with people that he thinks need ethics reforms?

Ethics Reform! Illegal Immigration! Lower Taxes! Safety! Education!

These are all over-used election push buttons and I defy anyone to name a politician that's actually done something positive about any one of those issues. Dont hold your breath waiting for results on any of them.

Peter Foy is ready to do battle against corrupt county supervisors.

Ken! Why don't you let us know when Peter Foy identifies who is the center of corruption? I think John Flynn might of been planning to totally take my parking spot or something.

I have spoken to at least a hundred people who voted for Foy by absentee and now say they made a mistake, after learning more about Foy they wish they had voted for Dantona! They did not know Foy would be a part time Supervisor and that he would most likely only appoint far right christian coalition hacks to his staff!

Sorry that people are having buyers remorse over Foy Voter. Live with it! He is nothing but a little puppet for the Strickland's, I won't go into where they have their hand to make him talk.

It would seem more productive to give the guy a chance and see how he does. If after his first term he isn't cutting the mustard then vote him out. But poisoning people against him before he has even been on the job for one day only makes you look bitter and angry. The voters have made their choice, now it is time for everyone to hold their judgment and to give him a fair chance to do the job. I think if the situation were reversed you would all one the same for your candidate.

!Ken!

has dantona officially conceded yet? I know the supervisors have moved on as if Foy is already the next supervisor. does anyone know if dantona has given up hope yet?

I actually have talked to a ton of people who voted for Dantona by absentee that live in the knolls because of his promises. After the debate, they saw who the real lead of Simi would be and wished they could take thier votes back.

i guess those along with the ones that johnny is talking about would balance it out anyway.

JOhnny, You talked to a hundred people? WOw. All about Foy? And all hundred happened to be absentee voters and all one hundred wanted to take back their vote?

Um do you work, cuz I wish I had that much time in a week.

Thats amazing. You should have put that skill to work during the campaign so that you could get your corrupt lobbyist into office.

Foy wins.

I talked to Elections Division yesterday. They said they will have the rest of the Absentee Ballots completed and posted by this coming Friday, 11/24. They said they will then be working on the provisional ballots which should be done and posted by the following Friday. They could not tell me from where these ballots, Absentee or provisional, originated. I was told they were not sorting in any particular order.
So I guess it's not over till it's over, whenever that is and whatever that means.

I figure Dantona will concede when all the votes are counted. Anyone that asks about it before that hates Democracy. A concession has no legal weight. Allow the F'ing votes to be counted. Of course that doesn't change who we expect to win, but blame the county, not the candidates.