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Hey,

I have a ballot initiative for the local area that I am thinking about putting together for November.

Anyone know how to do it?

Leave me some tips and links.

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You might want to contact your Assemblyman's office. I imagine the office staff could direct you. Good luck with that!

City or County measure?

You're too late for November. The timeline for local measures generally follows the state's. Here's a link: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2008_suggested_initiative_deadlines.pdf

I don't think it is too late. The candidates filing period hasn't even opened.

You are to late for a state wide measure Brian, and I think it is to late for a city or county measures unless voted on by the City Council or Board of Sups within the next two weeks. I would reccomend calling County Elections and City Clerk to find out for sure.

The reason why the different time line for initiatives and candidate filing is the signature verification.

I was thinking about local measures, not statewide.

I want to ban smoking within 10 feet of me.

Traditionally, you can only ban smoking within arm's reach of a closed fist, and that's only if you're bigger than the smoker.

The timeline link I posted is the same as what Ventura County and the cities within the County generally follow. But don't take my word for it - ask your city clerk.

gs - that's funny!

Brian, I know the deadline for a local measure (which would go through the county clerk) is around July 14th (because we talked about a possible measure last night). We determined it would be too late to pull it off. I think time will preclude you from doing a measure for this ballot (which should be quite crowded already).

How hard is it? What are the steps? I think I will figure it out for the future.

The wording is simple

"It is now a major offense to smoke around Brian Dennert."

That's a good measure to start. I'd like one for myself too ... the other day while waiting for the light to change red in Ventura, I was assaulted by someone's exhaust, heavy metal music AND cigarette smoke all at the same time. My 4 year old daughter really loved the wafts of smoke that came in through her window too.

Brian, I believe that it is not very complicated ... usually to put a measure on the ballot you have to get a certain percentage of the general voting population to sign a petition saying they wish for it to go on the ballot. Usually, the text or a part of the text needs to be included. They also have to be "good" signatures, so when you get the signatures you normally have to go well over since so many you get are usually "bad" (i.e. not in the correct voting area, not really registered, etc). I'm sure there are a number of fees that you have to pay as well, to pull papers for the ballot, to file the signatures, etc. Normally, if you seriously wanted to put something out there you would want to do so through an organization like the Stop Wal-Mart people or C.A.U.S.E. because they have the experience with writing the ballot initiatives and with getting the signatures needed.

I thought I read in a previous post that you were a smoker, Heather. That would suck though if people are actually blowing smoke in Heather's face. Poor dear...

There is a difference between choosing to smoke and having smoke coming at you when a child is there too.

I don't remember Heather ever stating here she is a smoker.

Your first stop would be the Simi Valley City Clerks office.

I am surprised that you are asking these questions when all you have to do is call City Hall.

The City Council can place a measure on the ballot or you can do it by petition.

Doubtful you would get it on the November 2008 ballot.

I figured in this era information of this sorts would be available online but I could not find it.

I am expanding the no smoking zone around me to 20'.

I would like to propose a counter measure which requires people who are intolerant of tobacco smoke to stay 20 feet away from me and anyone who smokes!

JimmyM,

Maybe we can combine our efforts? I fully support the right to smoke in a person's home or at work if they aren't around others.

Have you seen the laws that ban people from smoking at work even if they work alone?

If a business owner regulates their employees that seems fair but for the government to do it seems like overreaching.

Thanks for reading and commenting on my blog.

Brian,
I could go on for hours on this subject but I have other plans for today so I will be brief.
First some background, I quit smoking 23 years ago but I am not offended by someone else’s smoke.
I haven’t heard about laws that ban people from smoking even if they work alone, but I would have to ask, “ What is the objective of such a law?? (To protect the smoker from them self?)
If you think it is overreaching for the government to override a business owner's decision whether or not to regulate his employees how do you feel about the governments decision to regulate the business owner's choice of customers?
Further any city that bans smoking in public access areas such as parks and civic centers should be required to provide smoking areas adjacent to the banned areas. As long as these cities are collecting tax revenue from the sale of tobacco products then the 25% of the adult population that still smokes should be provided equal access to public facilities.

Jimmym,

I was joking that I wanted a law to make a zone around me but I favor some laws that restrict where smokers smoke.

Did you know local schools used to have smoking sections for students?

I am glad we aren't like other states where people smoke in more places.

Yes, I remember when there were smoking areas for students and faculty members were allowed to smoke in the teachers lounge. Now my children tell me that the restrooms are still a haven for student smokers just as they were when I went to school and we force the faculty and staff to go stand on the sidewalk. Our high school campuses are big enough to provide isolated smoking areas why should they be restricted with a blanket no smoking policy?

You want student smoking sections back on campus?

I was thinking more for the faculty and staff, but I don't see any reason to exclude those students that are over 18. After all, They are old enough to fight and die for their country, surely they are old enough to decide whether or not to smoke.

The law currently doesn't allow 18 year olds to leave campus without their parent's permission or parent's granting the right to check themselves out to their children.

Why should smoking be different?

So...let's say said legal adult student has parents permision to smoke? And, what about smoking areas for faculty and staff?

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