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Ventura County Stonewall Democrats

The Ventura County Stonewall Democrats sent out an email with their December events. Click on continue reading to see it.




State Supreme Court Challenge

In related news The State Supreme Court is going to be taking up issues related to Proposition 8 including the status of the marriages for people married before the ban went into place and if Proposition 8 was a revision of the constitution or an amendment.

I favor marriage equality but I don't have an opinion yet on if it was truly a revision instead of an amendment. I look forward to reading the debates on the legal question. I do find it funny, but expected, to see partisans that haven't waited to hear the arguments take a position on a state constitutional question.

Click here to read the story about Proposition 8 going to the State Supreme Court.



Local Protests

People upset at the ban are organizing events and getting together a movement to repeal the ban. It of course would have been great if they did this BEFORE the election!

Locally they have been targeting a Lassen's grocery store for donating a large sum to the Yes on 8 campaign.

Click here about the ongoing protests against Lassen's in Ventura for donating money to ban gay marriage.

This quote stands out from the article:


"We have a lot of gay and lesbian customers. We have nothing against them," said Endecott, who manages the Lassen's store in Camarillo, which is owned by her father, John Lassen. "To us, it (same-sex marriage) is a moral issue, not a civil issue."

I guess she means nothing against their gay customers except not wanting them to be able to get married .

The checks were from Lassen's the business, not the individuals. Wouldn't it have been easier if the owners donated themselves, instead of having their company do it?

We all acknowledge that individuals have every legal right to donate to campaigns but any company that donates to a campaign like this risks threats of boycotts and the potential loss of business. The Yes on 8 side has their own lists of businesses that they threatened to expose for donation money against Proposition 8, so the danger goes both ways for people that get involved in the process.

I think many of us assumed that Lassen's was a liberal company because of the products they sell. Have you ever made a choice about using a company's goods or services because of the money they gave to a political candidate or cause?


Exit Poll Data

Many people are claiming that Barack Obama's election is indirectly responsilble for the passage of Proposition 8. Click here to read an article from polling expert Nate Silver of 538 fame that counters that conventional wisdom being pushed by pundits.

Stonewall Democrats update:

During the month of December we will not hold our regular general meeting on the first Thursday. VCRA is holding their 13th Annual Community Service Awards at the Topa Tower Club that night. Please join the LGBT community in recognizing this year's award recipients. Also, don't forget to get your tickets for the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles performance at the Thousand Oaks Arts Plaza on Sunday afternoon December 14th. Please join us at the Ventura Democratic Club's Holiday Party on Saturday December 6th. Ventura Democratic Club Holiday Party

Date: Saturday December 6, 2008
Time: 6:30pm - 10:00pm
Location: Bella Vista at Promontory Point Recreation Building

Please RSVP to
Anne Donlon at annelisedon@hotmail.com or Vern Novstrup at xnovstr@pacbell.net

All Democrats and Friends are invited
Last names A-L bring your favorite dessert to share
Last names M-Z bring your favorite appetizer or dish to share
(no red wine please - we promised the facility)

4 Comments

I do believe the African American turnout for Obama certainly helped Prop. 8 pass. A majority of African Americans have strong ties with their churches and traditional religious beliefs. This helped significantly with the "yes" vote.

Strangely enough, I wasn't noticing a lot of protests being held down at the First AME Church in South Central Los Angeles. I wonder why this was.

Maybe it was because the majority of funding was from Mormons?

You should read 538 before you make assumptions.

Looks like the NAACP is trying to help.

I am going to call in gay.

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