YMCA Youth And Government Group Needs Your Help

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Last week I had the honor of giving input to some bills proposed by the Simi Valley Youth in Government group. For those of you not familiar with them it is basically a debate group that draws up proposals for legislation and then takes them to Sacramento for a meeting with other groups from across the state.

The proposals were judged on their merits, arguments, and ability to inspire debate. This year the bills included:

1. Teacher tenure rules reform ( I supported this bill ).
2. Mandatory commercial and industrial recycling.
3. Banning California dairies from using rGBH.
4. Changing the initiative process.

I sat next to State Assembly Member Audra Strickland who also volunteered her time to give input to the high school students as they prepare their legislation. I was surprised she was able to fit this event into her schedule and I know the participants were thankful for her help. The young people involved in this program are inspirational and I expect many of them to continue to make our community proud in the years ahead.

At the end of the night the proposal to change the initiative process in California won. This is where my readers can get involved.

They need to prepare their final arguments by next Tuesday. If you click on continue reading you can see the text of their bill. The Simi Valley Youth and Government group would appreciate it if you posted feedback to their bill that they can use to anticipate the talking points they will likely confront. Your critical feedback as to the wording, the merits of the proposal, or arguments against it would be very much appreciated.

It would be a personal favor if you can help them. Let's bring victory home to Ventura County!

Click here for my blog entry from last year's bill hearing night.


Introduced by Members Representing the Simi Valley YMCA

November 19, 2009

******** Constitutional Amendment No. *** - A resolution to propose to the people of the State of California an amendment to Article 2 Section 10 of the state constitution, relating to the ballot initiative process.

ABSTRACT

Following approval by the electorate, a supermajority vote will be required to pass initiative measures, the legislature will be able to amend or repeal initiative statutes without a vote of the electorate, and initiative measures will be screened by the Legislative Counsel to ensure that they designate adequate sources of funding.


Article 2 Section 10 of the California Constitution is amended to read:

SEC. 10. (a) An initiative statute or referendum approved by a

majority the required proportion of votes thereon takes effect the day after

the election unless the measure provides otherwise. Referendums

require a majority of votes, initiative statutes require three-fifths

of votes, and initiative amendments to the constitution require two-thirds

of votes. If a referendum petition is filed against a part of a statute the

remainder shall not be delayed from going into effect.

(b) If provisions of 2 or more measures approved at the same

election conflict, those of the measure receiving the highest

affirmative vote shall prevail.

(c) The Legislature may amend or repeal referendum statutes. It

may amend or repeal an initiative statute by another statute that

becomes effective only when approved by a majority of the electors unless

the initiative statute permits amendment or repeal without their approval.

If a statute that amends or repeals an initiative statute is passed with a

three-fifths vote of both houses of the legislature, it does not need to be

submitted to electors for approval. Instead, the text and a summary of

the changes must be published in at least three major state newspapers.

(d) Prior to circulation of an initiative or referendum petition

for signatures, a copy copies shall be submitted to the Attorney General

who and the Legislative Counsel. The Attorney General shall prepare

a title and summary of the measure as provided by law, and the

Legislative Counsel shall determine if the measure designates adequate

sources of funding. If the measure is lacking an adequate source of

funding, the Legislative Counsel shall return the measure to the author

with comments for revision before circulation of a petition on

the measure is permitted.

(e) The Legislature shall provide the manner in which petitions

shall be circulated, presented, and certified, and measures submitted

to the electors.


5 Comments

As one who absolutely sees the initiative process as a huge failure in California, I'd prefer it was repealed entirely. However, this at least makes a start toward tightening the rules.

A couple of nitpicky things:

"Adequate source of funding" should probably be more clearly defined to say what is "adequate". One person's adequate can be another person's underfunding. Set a benchmark: "An initiative may be deemed to be adequately funded if the source is stated in the measure itself, or refers to existing funds, etc."

I say this because many ballot initiatives are bond measures. By definition, they're unfunded except to the extent that payments are allocated as part of the budget. So what is adequate funding? Amortized over the life of the bond? Or a budget allocation ahead of the passage of the actual measure? You could find yourself in a situation where no bond measure can be offered as an initiative, which would mean a real loss to states, cities and municipalities who need infrastructure repairs or schools built.

Otherwise, go for it. And good luck.

Karoli,

Thanks for reading and commenting on my blog.

Youth and Government Students,

Check out this recent article on the initiative process:

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13859150?source=rss

Many attempts fail to make it to the ballot because they don't have financial resources, although the idea can be interesting. Would this proposal just make it harder for groups without major financial resources to be involved?

Here's an idea I support:

Putting on the sample ballot information on who paid and how much they paid to gather signatures.

It would be great if some of the ideas expired unless renewed by the legislature or voters. That way it is harder to get stuck with an idea once it has passed.

Regarding (b), "highest affirmative vote" is ambiguous.

Highest percent? Or highest number of votes? In all likelihood, it wouldn't make a difference, but it's a good thing to tighten up.

I'm also not a fan of the initiative process, however, although I like some of the outcomes, like Prop 13. The initiative process is an attempt to cure the symptom of a disease, not the disease itself, which is politicians that don't represent their constituents, which is what happens when they have 98% reelection rates thanks to gerrymandering.

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