Ventura County Tea Party formally splitting in two

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dont_tread_on_me.jpgIt's difficult to keep up with the shifting Tea Party groups--the players, alliances, aims and factions. That's part of the charm--this is a leaderless grassroots, bottom-up national movement, after all. It's expected that there would be overlapping territories, redundant organizations, and confusion over names.

Nationally, we've seen the National Tea Party Federation expel the Tea Party Express this week, itself a sister of the Tea Party Patriots. Then there's the 9/12 Project, Tea Party Nation and the Campaign for Liberty. The TPE is known for their highly publicized bus tours, Glenn Beck is the spiritual leader of the 9/12 Project, TPN received national attention for hosting the "Tea Party Convention," and Campaign for Liberty is a Ron Paul organization. Confusing, I know.

The largest Tea Party in Ventura is following suit, as it is splitting in two now that some members are leaving to formally create a non-profit organization.

Unofficially, the two groups have been working separately for months and have their own websites.

The face of the original Ventura County Tea Party is Carla Bonney, whose team executed several well-attended marches in Ventura, primarily at the Government Center. They are not incorporated.

The driving force behind the new Ventura County Tea Party is George Miller, who successfully pulled off a five-candidate Congressional debate earlier this year.

Bonney wants to continue to focus on a strong street presence, while Miller, who is helping to start the new non-profit, is emphasizing a more direct impact on politics (which he calls Tea Party 2.0). Miller's group is meeting in August to hammer down the details of their organization.

So what do we call these two groups? 

Bonney's group is associated with the Tea Party Patriots, but it's also known as Ventura County NGTTIA, which stands for Not Going To Take It Anymore (I find it a little unwieldy). I'll refer to them as the Ventura County Tea Party Patriots for now. Miller's group simply goes by the Ventura County Tea Party.

Despite being ideological brethren, the two Tea Parties are not expected to partner up in upcoming projects. Instead, look for them to largely remain independent of each other.



6 Comments

Eric:

An interesting, though not surprising development, which is pregnant with political possibilities. Many yet unknown.

Historically, it has been in the nature of the evolution of political protest movements in America for there to be latent paradoxes lurking beneath the political surface.

Often, the most powerful paradox involves subliminal conflicts between the political attraction of the catalytic spark which ignites their creation, and the perceived and/or real personal political magnetism amongst the movement's self-selected torch-bearers who attempt to carry that catalytic spark to other presumed fertile venues.

But I would remind, Madame Bonney, Mssr. Miller, and all of the Ventura County Tea-Partiers, of a self-evident truth in politics which they ignore at the peril of ultimate movement failure. The essential numerical function in politics is addition, not division and subtraction.

Or as a famous Republican President once said, ".. A house divided against itself, cannot stand.."

As a matter of pure political sporting interest, it will be interesting to see if this political equivalent of Ventura County Tea Party cellular division results in the local movement going "vitally viral" or "cannibalistically cancerous."

NostraDemus


I think at first each group will occupy themselves with separate tasks, but inevitably there will be friction as the groups are essentially in competition for the same hearts and minds in the area.

This is not going to help our fight to TAKE BACK AMEIRCA!!!

George has the right idea. Forming a NON-PROFIT ORG.

As I see it, it should be just that all across the country,
A 100 MILLION STRONG.

WE NEED UNISON TO FIGHT THIS BATTLE OF GOOD AGAINST EVIL.

THEORETICALLY, WE HAVE GIVE OR TAKE, 150 MILLION REPUBLICANS
AND 150 MILLION DEMOCRATS.

I DON'T THINK WE EVEN HAVE 75 MILLION REPUBLICANS ON OUR SIDE
YET, SO WE ARE OUTNUMBERED FROM THE GIT-GO.

THE TEA PARTIES NEED TO UNITE INTO ONE GIANT ORG WITH MASS MEDIA COVERAGE TO WAKE UP THE SLEEPING 75 MILLION REPUB'S WHO STILL HAVE THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND LIKE MY OWN FAMILY.

Joan, I'm halfway there with you about forming a non-profit. That makes collecting money and organizing efforts easier. However, it introduces an establishment in an anti-establishment movement. I don't know how that plays out--does it make the movement more effective? Does it make the movement more like what it's trying to replace? I don't have the answer. I don't think George would sacrifice his principles. But the organization's leadership can change hands, for example, it could be taken over by moderates, or establishment types that would take the organization in a different direction.

Joan,

Framing the debate as a battle of good vs. evil will only make you look further removed from critical thought.

I have had experiences with BOTH Ventura Tea Parties. Carla's is more friendly, open, fair, and supportive to new conservatives members. Miller's org is gestapo-like and draconian in that new members MUST prove themselves as conservative as Mr. Miller with his personal frindge "birther" and "truther" wild views. Don't bother with Miller, he's nuts like most Ron Paul supporters.

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Eric Ingemunson's commentary has been featured on Hannity, CNN, NBC, Inside Edition, and KFI's The John and Ken Show. Eric was born and raised in Ventura County and currently resides in Moorpark. He earned a master's degree in Public Policy and Administration from California Lutheran University. As a conservative, Eric supports smaller government, less taxation, more individual freedom, the rule of law, and a strict adherence to the Constitution.
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