Marie Maniacs:

Check out this debate between David Atkins and a local city council candidate on my blog on the subject if America is a center right nation.

http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/dennert/archives/2009/01/is-america-a-ce.html#comments

Limbaugh's little "feifdom" is 20,000,000 - Maddow's is 1,000,000 plus. Humor and truthfulness wins out over sarcasm and disingenuousness every time. The foul language on the Daily Kos is never seen on more conservative venues.

Juan,

What did you think of Rush Limbaugh's CD that got a Republican Party leader is so much trouble?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/26/rnc.obama.satire/index.html

Is that an example of humor and better language?

Thanks for the mention Marie. Progressives, Independents and Democrats have allowed the Right to dominate political discourse in this county for far too long. One only has to look at the comments posted in this and Brian's blogs giving them a disproportionate voice to their party registrations. Moderates have for some reason do not respond because they are either too busy or too polite and disgusted to respond. I am encouraging them to speak up so when people read these posts they don't come away thinking this is how the majority of the citizens in this county think. Hopefully through our appearances on Locals Only on KVTA we will get our side to speak up.

Brian L
I always find wording like "allowed" disingenuous. The unfortunate truth is that the left-of-center has not been able to produce radio talk show hosts that are economically viable. Air America with the backing of Soros took a stab at it on a national level and they went bankrupt.
Moderates....do not respond.... Do you really read the responses? And do you really believe that most of us that live in the county believe each and every thing either political party espouses?
We all have our views and even though I would categorize Marie in the left-of-center group on fiscal policy, I have no idea what she believes in other aspects of political life.
Of course there are strongly biased people that respond here; but it's on all sides and no one is allowing or disallowing anybody.
I hope your show does well, but I doubt that any of us knows what the citizens in this county think on every subject. - One could make the case that we're quite right-of-center since Strickland won the state senate seat with quite a majority in Ventura county.
Again, I hope your show does well since political discourse benefits everyone.

Please don't forget that SD-19 left out large swaths of Oxnard, Port Hueneme, Santa Paula and Fillmore, all very Democratic strongholds. This was done to appease and gerrymander a safe district for Tom McClintock. Despite this, heir apparent Strickland only won by 857 votes.

Democrats and DTS make up the clear majority of the county, KoeJos.

Oh and BTW, the radio show was fabulous!

How much is their airtime costing them?

Dennert,
I don't trust you, get off of Marie's blog, and shame on you for trying to steal her glory.

Marie, DTS makes up about a third of SD 19. So does D, and R. The fact is that proves we are more right than left here because even though SB went in a landslide to HBJ, Senator Strickland won in VC by about 8.5%. Yes, there is gerrymandering, but for some reason you think it only works to keep republicans in office. It swings both ways, Dems do the same thing. And don't forget they stuck Fillmore, and Santa Paula with George Runner, another R.

Haha, you are oddly territorial. Why don't you trust Brian? He's a really nice guy.

I was kidding. I mean you're the political machine right?

Marie,
Registrations in VC for the previous election were appx:
40% D, 38% R, 19% DTS, 2% AI and .6% Green.

putting the 19% DTS in the Dem and/or "progressive" side of the equation is disingenuous. The only thing we do know about them is that they don't want to be considered dems or repubs or greens or peace and freedom or libertarian or any other party.

A majority voted for and passed a proposition that will change the way and by who districts are created after the 2010 census.

This might or might not change the political composition of our state. We'll know in 3 years.

Marie and Brian, how do you feel about requiring proof of citizenship when registering to vote?

How about English only ballots since one of the citizenship requirements is that person needs to know English?

How much money would VC and other CA counties save in election costs if they only had to prepare each ballot in one language?

Marie - you advocate for Education and Brian you're a teacher in SV - what do you think about the school that took money for an AP Spanish class that was "taught" to fluent Spanish speakers? I know it wasn't a lot of money, but $10k here, $10k there and it eventually adds up to real money.

Comment: "Brian" on Rush Limbaugh tape

I thought Paul Shanklin's song was hilarious - as are most of hi songs - but then you have to be intelligent enough to understand the entire context rather than to dismiss based on a partial sound bite. In fact, it is an example of much better language and real humor than Daily Raunchy Kos ( but, again, one must be intelligent and witty enough to understand the context and resist the temptation to say " racist" ).

Every time Messiah Man screws up, yet another nomination leaves and he is forced to take yet another plane ride to prop up his
pathological narcissistic personality disorder - planting himself in front of yet another group of adoring products of our NEA-run dumbed down education system, all intellectually honest people alive today ( including all of Wall Street, now the entire diss'd population of England and even Jim Kramer ) pray for somebody with brains to enter the fray and take charge of this lemming-like run over the cliff. I was so happy to learn this week that wife Michelle's main goal for humanity as a $300,000.00 per year hospital administrator in Chicago was to coordinate their patient-dumping program - in between workouts.

Even Bart Simpson's father has a word for the President: "D'Obama".

Marie, why is it that you complain about me repeatedly bringing up certain issues, yet in almost every thread you manage to complain about Tony Strickland and an election that was over 4 months ago. Seems to me that I'm not the only person obsessed with a topic. And for the record, the margin of victory is irrelevant. Being close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades.

Bubba Kidd

To compare Representative Democracy to Horseshoes and Hand Grenades is pretty lame. The goal of Representative Government is to represent their
constituency not blow off their needs.

Brian
Do you believe that a majority of people in the 19th wanted their taxes increased again?

Koejos: You can't come to any conclusions about the electorate of Ventura County as whole by using SD-19 as an example. That was my point.

OK, Bubba, I'll make you a deal: You don't mention public employee pensions for awhile and I won't mention the gerrymandering of SD-19. Obviously we both have things that stick in our craws. I voted for the redistricting measure and I am hoping for improvement in that area.

Marie
I did no such thing. I didn't use SD-19 registrations - those are VC registrations.

I was originally reacting to this statement from you: "One could make the case that we're quite right-of-center since Strickland won the state senate seat with quite a majority in Ventura county."

SD-19 leaves out most of Oxnard, plus Santa Paula, Fillmore, Port Hueneme and Piru, all Democratic strongholds.

But I'm done arguing about this now.

and I was reacting to this statement:
"It's really important for Democrats, progressives and independents to get their voice out and this is the way to do it," Leshon said. "We can't allow the conversation to be controlled by the right. They don't represent where the county is going."

You find Rush Limbaugh as elevated political discourse and in good taste but Dailykos.com offends you?

He regularly refers to advocates for more rights for women as Feminazis and he said "feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."

He is on for hours ever day trying to be provocative and like many entertainers is bound to say stupid things.

But to argue that you don't like vulgarity but like Rush Limbaugh is hilarious. You just don't like left wing vulgarity.

Marie,
I agree with you. Using the election results for the 19th senate district, you can come to any conclusion about the electorate, save for one: A majority of the constituents liked Senator Tony Strickland over HBJ. Everything else about: which way we lean in this county, even though VC has a "Conservative" Plurality by about 8 percent based on the election results from VC. The further West one goes, and the closer to the beach, the more liberal the district becomes. Liberals might argue that SB, and Ventura City have a higher education level because of their more progressive voting patterns. I could tell you that a horse is named Charlie because of the election and somehow tie it to those statistics, So I totally understand where you are coming from.

In general,
I think Rush Limbaugh is entertaining, and since most people are sheep (on both sides), there are a lot of blind faith followers of his ideas. I also think that (on both sides) there are plenty of educated rational people who just happen to agree with the SOB. Maybe, I'm just jealous of his cigar stash. My favorite comment on his show wasn't even his. This lady called and said that her daughter had told her that President Hussein Obama (before the election) looked like Curious George, the popular children's book character. Now, I could see how the child related Obama's big ears with the character and drew the conclusion, but this woman was either too racist, ignorant, or politically incorrect to realize what she was saying over the air. Rush giggled, then cut to commercial, where his staff quickly told him how he had to apologize for the caller, and he spent the rest of the show explaining how he had never heard of Curious George. That was entertainment.

Rush had never heard of Curious George. The young daughter had no idea she was saying something proclaimed as politically incorrect by goofy lib adults, so there you go. I have been aware of Limbaugh since 1983, have an above average IQ and find him very astute and very funny. Rush has called N.O.W. the "Nat'l Ass'n of Ugly Women" for decades - you want to sue him ? No one has so far. Check out who his lawyer is. His term "Feminazi" applies usually to women like Rosa Brooks of the LA Times - women who are virulent feminists bordering on being a danger to the US - you think I'm kidding ? - read some of her stuff. Rush may be very tough, but never vulgar. If D'Obama wants to take him on ( which he does not - teleprompters won't be allowed ) he will be drawn and quartered ( that's an old English Lit. term for cutting another person in four sections ).

Juan,

Rush Limbaugh said :

"feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society"

Do you agree with him?

The vulgarity isn't a particular word in that sentence, it is the idea behind it.

Ideas like that are more offensive then a four letter word. I don't favor a law or a lawsuit. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy of only noticing vulgarity from people you disagree with on policy.

I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

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You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.

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Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

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Take that bone out of your nose and call me back (to an African American female caller).

The quote regarding MLK cannot be true, but do you remember that he called Chelsea Clinton a dog?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1995/05/lyin-bully

Yet another example of hypocrisy to attack liberals for their tone while defending Rush Limbaugh.

"History":

Your cited article written by wacko lib "journalist" Texan Molly Ivins is an out-and-out lie - and says so if you read the whole piece you cite. Limbaugh held up a picture of a "cute dog" and of a "cute kid". The person held up the wrong picture ( of the dog) and was fired. Get your facts straight.

"Racist Limbaugh quotes":

Lifting alleged quotes attributable to Limbaugh from the sewer called "Daily Kos" written by a neurotic who calls himself "Barack Marley" without further attribution is reprehensible. That's what you call a contribution to this blog ? Back your stuff up or please be quiet. This guy also promotes the idea that the govt. should "bail out hip hop".

'Brian":

Those who "get" Rush know that the remark about ugly women was said with a certain degree of tongue planted firmly in cheek; we all know it to have a modicum of truth, and we all know that the spirit attached to feminism has a certain element of spiritual ugliness toward men and children as well. That's the truth.

Here is another Rush quote:

" Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along".

Here is one from Pat Robertson:

"Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians".

The above are direct, honest and truthful statements based on thousands of years of human experience - not on 30 years of propagandizing from the likes of BaBa WaWa.

Limbaugh, as culled from Media Matters:

■ "We're not sexists, we're chauvinists--we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want."

■ "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream."

■ "The answer is to go out and find [drug users], convict them, and send them up the river." "All of us who accept the responsibilities of life and don't destroy our lives on drugs, we'll pay for whatever messes you [drug addicts] get into."

(All this was before Limbaugh admitted he was addicted to painkillers)

■ "I'm almost going to come out in favor of war every 10 years so that we always have a group of people in this country that know what it's like. It's not healthy to go without a war for all these many years..."

Limbaugh did not serve in Vietnam and told ABC News in 1992, "I did not want to go."

■ "When a gay person turns his back on you, it's anything but an insult--it's an invitation."

■ "One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the Homeless Olympics. The 10-meter Shopping Cart Relay, the Dumpster Dig, and the Hop, Skip, and Trip."

■ "I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back; I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."

■ "You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed."

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This is what drug addiction gets you.

Your ideas are much more vulgar than simple filthy language.

Making fun of homeless people, the least amongst these, or more vulgar than a four letter word.

Radio driven tax revolt?

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/08/fullerton-tea-party-gets-15000-protestors/

I was thinking of juandeveras and his defense of Limbaugh. According to your own post he was making fun of a little child and their looks, but it wasn't Chelsea Clinton so it was okay? That is disgusting and vulgar. Your post from Pat Robertson is on the extreme fringes of political thought.

Rush Limbaugh makes fun of poor people and ugly people regularly and you think it is acceptable. That's vulgar.

"More Limbaugh":

You are repeating yourself and others. Half of you "quotes" were already "culled" above.

Comment: Anyone with a brain knows the context of Limbaugh's comments - the 20,000,000 who listen regularly are among the brighter members of society.

"Your ideas are much more vulgar than simple filthy language":

Who, KD, is making fun of homeless people ?

KD - My "defense of Rush Limbaugh" was an airing of the true facts surrounding the incident cited by the abovenamed "History" in his/her "MotherJones" reference. I suggest you read it and be quiet or come up with something relevant to that quote. What you are attributing to me is untrue.

"According to your own post he was making fun of a little child and their looks".

KD - According to my own post I recited the facts: He was not making fun of anybody or their looks. Please, learn to read or at least learn to read and deal with facts.

"Rush Limbaugh makes fun.....of poor and ugly people"

Unfortunately, you fail to grasp his point. He is very respectful of all people - had you any wit within your sanctimonious self-righteous being, you might get it.

Rush Limbaugh quote:

"One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the Homeless Olympics. The 10-meter Shopping Cart Relay, the Dumpster Dig, and the Hop, Skip, and Trip."

Pew Research Center:

Knowledgeable News audiences:

College grads:
NPR listeners: 54%
Limbaugh listeners 33%

Scored high on news quiz:

NPR listeners: 44%
Limbaugh listeners 36%

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1102/limbaugh-audience-conservative-men

Brian, if I find out it's dennert again, I'm going ballistic. You were warned.

Rush is an entertainer. The fact of the matter is that only 10-20 percent of "conservatives" consider him to be a party leader. He is a RADIO SHOW HOST. Has he said anything that is less or more offensive than HOWARD STERN?

The quote about the Femnazis and the creation of feminism are supposed to be outlandish extreme counter points to mainstream thought. The one about slavery building the South. It did. The most pure form of labor in the Capitalist system is to own slaves. And it still exists in almost every continent on this world except for most of North America. Look at the white slavery in Eastern Europe.

Feminism wasn't created to help ugly women, but it sure has made the modern unattractive woman less susceptible to criticism for their looks in their modern society.

Researcher,

If you adjust those numbers for volume (Again statistics, which I know Marie loves to use for arguments), Then the actual numbers of College grads is: Rush 98% and NPR 3%. So there are more college grads listening to Rush than NPR by a huge margin. I know that there is more than 100 percent here, but due to the math of that statistical analysis apparently 1% of college grads listen to both.

And there are more people watching "American Idol" than "Masterpiece Theatre." What's your point haha? Listening to Limbaugh is kind of like the lookyloos who slow down to watch freeway carnage. Who said the American people have good taste?

Brian Dennert is very welcome to post on my blog. What's your beef with him?

I was again demonstrating that if you use statistics to prove arguments like "more educated", or anything like that, it can be recalculated to get any conclusion you want. Liberal talk shows aren't anything more or less than conservative ones. They are less successful, and that may only be a matter of time, and there is nothing cast into stone.

I have no beef with Brian, I just don't want him to bring over some of the crazy folk who post on his blog here to ruin yours. I'm looking out for you here, I promise.

Haha,

My point was that it is hypocritical of Juan to claim he is offended at vulgarity but defend Rush Limbaugh.

Juan,

So, who was the White House dog in his joke?

You think he treats everyone with respect? Explain his quote regarding the homeless. How is that showing respect?

HaHa,

How much respect did Comedian Rush Limbaugh show Michael J. Fox and those who suffer from Parkinson's. Talk about vulgar, out of line behavior. Anyone who supports that clown is morally bankrupt.

Brian:

The Whitehouse dog is that of the outgoing first Bush presidency ( It was not a joke - it was simply a picture of the outgoing Whitehouse dog and the incoming daughter of Clinton ).

He obviously treats people with a heck of a lot more respect than, say, D.L. Hughley, who was just fired from his CNN show for, among other things, saying last week that all in attendance at CPAC were nazis.

Rush on Michael J. Fox:

Fox appeared before a congressional committee deliberately choosing to not take his Parkinson's medication so as to exaggerate and exploit his illness - it's like exploiting for maximum impact even at the expense of accurately portraying Fox's symptoms. That's what Rush was addressing and he produced evidence to that fact.

Rush on homelessness:

Mental illness and drug addiction are endemic among the homeless population. Rush is commenting on the political dimension attached to homelessnes: That cities have spent billions over the last 30 years on homelessness and the instityutions set up to "end" it have done nothing but perpetuate it. Go to downtown L.A. The homelessness there is much more prevelent than at any time in the past. There are literally dozens of blocks of homeless people living on the sidewalks of downtown L.A. in cardboard boxes - because the ACLU has arranged for the courts to forbid them from being assisted. Deal with that issue and then tell me about how Rush disrespects the homeless. Rush once offerred to take a busload of homeless people to Malibu after its "mayor" promised to take care of the homeless - Rush was addressing the hypocrisy of the libs on this issue - his homeless song is " Ain't Got No Home" by Clarence "Frogman" Henry - very big in the 50's

juandeveras,

What do liberal policies have to do with his joke that he wanted to host the homeless Olympics? Is that what you meant when he said he treated everyone with respect?

Was he treating feminists with respect when he said they only existed to help ugly women have access to the mainstream of society? Was he respecting people regardless of how they look?

Was he showing respect when he said police sketches of wanted criminals remind him of Jesse Jackson?

Was he showing respect when he made fun of Robert Reich for being short? Reich is a victim of a childhood bone disease.

Just give it up already. Limbaugh is a loud mouthed, former drug addict entertainer that if he was poor would have had much higher chances of being thrown in prison.

Oh, and you really think he the punchline to the Chelsea Clinton joke was supposed to be Bush Sr.? What's your only source? That's right, Rush Limbaugh, the man that didn't know the difference between global warming and the ozone layer.

Juan,
Limbaugh publicly apologized to Fox for his remarks, so even he knew he was out of line.

I can see that you are concerned about our homeless issues. Locally, we are doing A LOT. Did you go to the fundraiser for the Ventura Homeless Prevention Fund? I put up a post about it. Did you donate? You still can by downloading the form. The entry is at the very bottom.

juandeveras

You don't even know what the drug addicted clown was referring to when he made that claim about Michael J. Fox. He wasn't talking his appearance before he Congress. He was talking about the commercial he made in support of Claire McCaskill.

From the October 23 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

"LIMBAUGH: You need to see this. It's a spot running in St. Louis during World Series games, bought and paid for and approved by the Democrat [sic] Senate candidate, Claire McCaskill. Now, I want you to listen to this. This is Michael J. Fox, aired during a World Series game, and I will describe for you what he's doing in this commercial after you've heard it.

LIMBAUGH: Now, this is Michael J. Fox. He's got Parkinson's disease. And in this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He is moving all around and shaking. And it's purely an act. This is the only time I have ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has. I know he's got it and he's raising money for it, but when I've seen him in public, I've never seen him betray any of the symptoms. But this commercial, he -- he's just all over the place. He can barely control himself. He can control himself enough to stay in the frame of the picture, and he can control himself enough to keep his eyes right on the lens, the teleprompter. But his head and shoulders are moving all over the place, and he is acting like his disease is deteriorating because Jim Talent opposes research that would help him, Michael J. Fox, get cured. And I think, didn't he even say -- they said it at a debate. I don't know if he said it at a convention. So this is really shameless, folks, this is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting, one of the two."

The fact is he was not exaggerating his condition. Rush said it because when he saw him on Boston Legal he was in better shape. The man is a disgrace to humanity.

All of you ( I want to say "ladies" ) are amusing in your collective virulence against Rush: like a bunch of feral cats. I think it would be safe to say that Rush has probably done more for the homeless in general, for women in general and for drug treatment issues in general than all of you, in your whining petulance, have ever contemplated. His addiction arose after becoming addicted to painkillers after a very severe back condition. It would be nice if your collective liberal "compassion" for your fellow man extended that far. He addressed all of the related legal implications related to the matter and satisfied the relevant government authorities. 'Nuf said.

Apparently much of what Rush does/says is over your heads - there is humor but without the ad hominum attacks such as those of Leshon. Allow me to assist:

"Olympics" - You continue to repeat what you have stated previously. You chose not to comprehend what I have stated. Each item you've regurgitated has already been dealt with. Suggestion: Read / think more and vent less.

Marie: The fact that Rush may have apologized for something he said is not unlike Rush. He'a an honorable man. What you all need to grasp is this: He punches holes in the frequently incomplete rhetoric which the main stream media continues to put out. He frequently does it with bombast - just as Keith Olbermann does. The issue which you all are attempting to pounce on is: " Why does he desparage Michael J. Fox, who has Parkinson's"? Fox is a grown man. He admitted to overblowing his case in order to make a more impressive presentation to Congress. That was dishonest and that is all Rush was commenting on - and the fact that the media refused to bring it up - because of a particular point of view. Rush's satire on the homeless is to illustrate the politics of homelessness - not to poke fun at the homeless people - most intelligent people understand this.

Brian Leshon: You seem to be bent on making noise and having the last word rather than making sense. You refer to Rush here as " a drug-addicted clown" and a "disgrace to humanity" - statements obviously endowed with the great compassion you profess selectively for your fellow man: Fox - yes; Limbaugh: no. The context re. McCaskill's campaign, to which you refer in your unique but tacky fashion: McCaskill was promoting embryonic stem cell research in her campaign, a concept opposed by many in her state, including her opponent, Talent. This was a highly contested race. Fox supports embryonic stem cell research, a concept deemed unnecessary since it has been determined that stem cells from other sources do just as good a job toward the same result and do not kill embryos. Rush SUGGESTED that Fox may have been overplaying his hand, a concept Fox admitted, and, when Rush was challenged, agreed like the gentleman he is, to refrain from pursuing the matter. The fact remains that Fox was overplaying his hand, acknowledged as much, and that is that.

BrianS,
Why am I getting attacked for stuff he said? I didn't say it. I like Back to the Future. Even Back II the Future. Seriously, most radio show hosts don't have any real political agenda, but are there as commercially viable forms of entertainment. I don't know of any other show that makes as much from advertising as Rush's, and in a market economy the bottom line is the best measure of success. Rush is more successful than anyone on this blog, and that's for darn sure. He pokes fires, and starts up debates, and creates chaos for the sake of ratings, and guess what, IT WORKS! Because I have a sense of humor and can laugh at my own party as much as the other, I can handle a good Limbaugh in the morning. He's way more optimistic about this country than I am, even with his hate for Obama, then again he lives in Florida. They have money to pay their teachers, and fire fighters, and cops there.

juandeveras

It seems you are the one intent on the last word with 10 comments in this thread so far to my previous 4 now 5 comments, and I am sure you are not finished yet. In case you missed it Rush was convicted of having his house keeper procure Oxycontin, hillbilly heroin, for his use. He is a drug addicted hypocrite as well as a clown. He then violated his probation by bringing Viagra into the country on a return from Puerto Rico. To those of us who believe the rule of law applies to everybody and don't feel that because someone is rich they should get a pass an his degrading remarks about, women, the poor and those of ethinc origins he is a disgrace to humanity.

So Juan, have you made your contribution to the Ventura Homeless Prevention Fund yet? Maybe you could make it in Limbaugh's honor?

The point remains anyone that thinks Rush Limbaugh doesn't personally attack people is a liar or hasn't been paying attention. If you don't like the tone of DailyKos but think Rush Limbaugh doesn't get into vulgar attacks on the less fortunate you are not a listener of his show or you haven't read much of him besides from his supporters.

Marie:

If $30 billion of taxpayer funds spent allegedly in the name of helping the homeless over the last 30 years has not put a dent in the problem, what is the "Ventura Homeless Prevention Fund" going to 'prevent"? Talk to me in one year and then show me that even one dollar given to the above Fund has diminished homelessness in Ventura. You want to be seen publicly doing "something" with no measurable results. You have created much of this homeless problem with your support of the loony ACLU, which has precluded these people from getting the treatment they often need for schizophrenia etc. , This is no joke.

Counter Point:

"..... you haven't read much of him besides from his supporters".

One does not "read" Rush - one "listens" to Rush.

Leshon: You seem to be yet another robotic lib - repeating the same trivia. I'm aware of Rush's issue ( currently being ressurected on Kos to deflect from D'Obama's really bad "leadership" ), his private plane having been boarded per the request of a local Democrat operative. He's never driven drunk off a bridge, left a young woman dead, or returned a gift to this country of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office back to the UK ( D'Obama and his very strange wife ) -now that is vulgar. This is a right-of-center country - get used to it.

I noticed that Juan gave up on defending Rush Limbaugh as a decent man that would never pick on the less fortunate. Juan wasn't able to explain what the punch line of the Chelsea Clinton is a dog joke was, he didn't bother to explain how using homeless people for entertainment isn't degrading, and he doesn't even bother to try to explain how all of this makes Rush Limbaugh not a vulgar person.

The whole point has always been that Rush Limbaugh picks on people for their looks, including disease victims, taunts poor people, and attacks the weak.

Is he the worst? Of course not but it simply isn't rational to say the man isn't vulgar.

Oh, and nice attack on First Lady Michelle Obama. You learned well from Rush Limbaugh!

Aha, so you didn't donate, Juan. I didn't think so.

Who says I support the ACLU?

But the Ventura Homelessness Prevention Fund has already helped dozens of families.

Is Rush any more vulgar than Howard Stern?

Juan Gave Up, Counterpoint, etc.:

Honesty and transparency in government is what is sought by people like Rush and why millions of bright, honest Americans who are his devoted listeners have enabled him to achieve the American dream as a college dropout who worked for years in anonymity to achieve his goal. As I stated several times already, idiot, Rush addresses a lot of the crap which libs such as yourselves have promulgated and does so with humor and a light touch. He is as compassionate a man as is in the public arena today. As to Michelle Obama, she made $300,000.00 per year in her job charged with "dumping" patients who couldn't pay their bills at a large Chicago hospital.

What's your point, Marie? The Prevention Fund pays out a max of $1000.00 per family per year - not to the family, but to a landlord or other third party creditor. Explain how that prevents homelessness. When you suggest the Fund has "helped" families, has it kept the family off the street or has it only been a band aid? How about some specifics. I tithe to my church, Marie. I don't need someone like yourself trying to tell me what to do with my money. No one suggests you support the ACLU, Marie; I was attempting to enlighten you to the fact that much homelessness, particularly of the mentally disabled, has come about because of ACLU efforts. Can you not understand English ?

Juan Gave Up, Counterpoint, etc.:

Honesty and transparency in government is what is sought by people like Rush and why millions of bright, honest Americans who are his devoted listeners have enabled him to achieve the American dream as a college dropout who worked for years in anonymity to achieve his goal. As I stated several times already, idiot, Rush addresses a lot of the crap which libs such as yourselves have promulgated and does so with humor and a light touch. He is as compassionate a man as is in the public arena today. As to Michelle Obama, she made $300,000.00 per year in her job charged with "dumping" patients who couldn't pay their bills at a large Chicago hospital.

What's your point, Marie? The Prevention Fund pays out a max of $1000.00 per family per year - not to the family, but to a landlord or other third party creditor. Explain how that prevents homelessness. When you suggest the Fund has "helped" families, has it kept the family off the street or has it only been a band aid? How about some specifics. I tithe to my church, Marie. I don't need someone like yourself trying to tell me what to do with my money. No one suggests you support the ACLU, Marie; I was attempting to enlighten you to the fact that much homelessness, particularly of the mentally disabled, has come about because of ACLU efforts. Can you not understand English ?

Haha:

Rush lives in Florida because there is no state income tax, you can't have your home taken away in case of bankruptcy and the weather in Palm Beach is nice most of the time. There are as many people leaving California every day ( it's run by libs and bankrupt ) as there are moving to Florida every day - yet as you say, Florida can still pay their civil servants.

I guess Juan thinks making fun of homeless people is okay and is compatible with being a decent person.

Juan, do you like to make jokes at the expense of homeless people?

I think, if it was a funny enough joke, then you can still be good person and make it. That is the beauty of humor. I don't think homelessness by itself is funny, but if you told me a joke that made ma laugh about them, does that make me a bad person?

Juan,
Thanks for the props about Florida. I know why he lives there; a lot of rich athletes have homes there, so they also don't pay state income tax. And yet, even though they aren't turning the screws on the rich people down there, they still haven't run out of money in Tallahassee. Yet everyone screams "don't be mad, we'll tax the rich..." that's working great!

keep up the good work, I love your show too bad it's only 30 minutes