GS and Garibaldi, someone e-mailed and wants to chat with you two guys. Can I e-mail you their contact info?

If so, e-mail me your contact info.

Brian

The so-called Citizens for Ethical Leadership Committee alleged in a full-page advertisement in The Star that candidate Peter Foy violated the law, deceived the public and collected donations that contributors could not claim as tax deductible.

Let’s break down the charges with the facts uncovered by the Star:

Accusation
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The foundation did not file tax returns from its beginnings in 2001 through 2004

According to the Star
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The returns are missing because the law does not require them to be filed until the foundation generates $25,000 or more in gross receipts in a year — something didn't happen until 2005.
State and federal officials also confirmed that interpretation of the tax law.

Accusation
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Foy’s foundation did not renew its registration with the Secretary of State.

According to the Star
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The registration was not renewed, however that may have been due to reminders from the state agency not being forwarded to a new address. The Foy Foundation did reactivate its registration with the Secretary of State's Office on Sept. 14 and is in good standing with the state Franchise Tax Board, according to officials.

Accusation
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Because the corporation was not registered in California from August 2004 until mid-September, those donations cannot be claimed by the contributors as tax deductions.

According to the Star
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State officials doubted that the paperwork issues would foul up the donations.
According to a spokeswoman from the Attorney General's Office the paperwork issue does not affect the tax-deductible status and that a suspension of registration can be easilt remedied and organizations brought back into compliance. A spokeswoman for the state Franchise Tax Board also doubted that the donations would be illegal.

So there you have it, more false accusations from the Dantona Gang. I think a retraction and apology are in order from the Citizens for Ethical Leadership Committee, since "ethical leadership" should preclude the use of false charges to win a political campaign. I'm also waiting to hear a retraction and apology to Peter Foy from the Dantona supporters on this blog. If they truly believe in "ethical leadership" as they claim they should push for Jim Dantona himself to retract the charges as well.

Bubba,
Item 1. Sorry no apologies or retractions. Unfortunately the Star in it's usual mannor only got half the story and you of course have no idea what your talking about I'm afraid you and Mr Foy have to live with the truth.

You are correct that Mr Foy did not file Tax returns for 2001,2002,2003,2004, but your claim and the Star's is wrong that the Franchise Tax Board gives him a pass on that issue. You must file 3 yes 3 consecutive tax returns showing you have raised under $25,000.00 and then requst that your foundation need only file every 2 years.
Since Mr. Foy started his supposed Foundation in 2001 he never filed any returns thus not qualifying to file every 2 years. Source: FTB

So item # 1 GUILTY AS CHARGED.

Item 2. Mr Foy did not file his mandatory corporate papers with the Secretary of State for over 4 years. The Sec. of State does not give him a pass. Are you trying to tell us that Mr. Foy never questioned if he had any Tax returns or corporate filings in 4 years, or does he believe as most believe about him that he is above the law. I mean come on he has such a successful Insurance Business would he let Policies Lap simply beacuse Home Office didn't send him a form. not only didn't he get a pass the Foundation was suspended since 8/2004 (over 2 years). Since you and Mr Foy are such experts On Non Profit Corporations then you know under California Law you can not conduct business LEGALLY while you are suspened.

Item # 2 GUILTY AS CHARGED.

Item # 3 Your claim that The Foy Foundation is in good standing with the Franchise Tax Board. FALSE once again as of 5pm 9/28/06 the Foundation was still under suspension by the FTB.

Item # 3 GUILTY AS CHARGED

Item # 4 Your statement that the contributions that were given while the Foy Foundation was and is under suspendtion are Tax Deductable, "WRONG AGAIN" now will the Franchise Tax Board go after those contributors most likely not since they made those contributions in good faith from a man who has no idea what he is doing.

Item # 4 GUILTY AS CHARGED.

In Summary, once again you and Mr Foy have No Idea what your talking about.

The Star reporters were in way over their heads and asked qustions that had little to do with Mr. Foy's WRONG DOING.

The point here is not that anyone is acussing Foy of a Criminal Act, simply incompetence which is obvious by any one with half a brain and if you look at his web site he claims for years he has been helping Thousands of Kids around the WORLD. How did he do that with little or no money. Either he is Lying to the State of California or simply fabricating all the supposed good work he has done.

BUBBA you make the the call, either way a man who believes he is above the law or is that incompetent shouldn't be our county supervisor.
GUILTY AS CHARGED ON ALL COUNTS.

Even if it was something as innocent as mail that didn't get forwarded... according to the article, Foy needed "reminders from the state agency?"

News flash -- if you go a few years without hearing anything from the state office that's supposed to renew you every year, maybe there's a problem with your mail not being forwarded. I don't care if it was technically legal... this isn't the kind of la-de-dah attitude I'd expect from a guy who wants to be my county supervisor.

New slogan: "Elect Foy... just keep reminding him to fund the fire department, or he might forget. He's apparently forgetful about such things unless you remind him."

Emess,
Good point. I would hate to think that Ventura County will miss out on State or Federal Funds because Mr. Foy wasn't sent a notice by the State or Feds. Anyone who believes Foy's lies I've got some great swamp land for you in Florida.

Over and over Foy has advertised for op research positions. Don't think he wants to go negative!

GtRF,

What's the source of your info? Can the info be verified? How would we do that?

IF what you've said is correct then it stands that what the THE STAR's reporter said was incorrect. If that's the case then these question need to be asked: 1) Was the reporter's and the editor's work just a case of sloppy journalism? 2) Was the reporter and the candidate in collusion to have a misleading report published? 3) Was the report published in a deliberate attempt to misinform the Voters and thus corrupt the election process?

Though I admit that I've had my suspicions on the veracity of THE STAR's report all along, the Voters need to know where you've gotten your information, GtFR.

I got the sample ballot today. Peter Foy really is running as a farmer!

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You've got to wonder what color the sky is in GtRF's world.

The Star article has representatives from all the Govenrment Agencies involved saying there was never any real problem beyond the clerical and he still pronounces guilt.

What agency does GtRF work for? What badge does he carry that he has the power to dismiss these Sec. of State, Franchise Tax Board, IRS and Attorney General's office employees? Gary doesn't think Teresa Schilling from the AG's office really said what she said?

You guys think that you can just repeat a false accusation over and over and suddenly it will become truth? The voters are smarter than that. If you folks want to damage Foy you're goin to have to come up with some real dirt. But that won't happen-there isn't any.

First, what he will not do: He will not violate the law and defraud donors by soliciting funds for his not-for-profit corporation when the corporation was suspended for not filing tax returns for four consecutive years like Peter Foy has done.

Second, he will not sit on the board of directors of right wing, out-of-the-mainstream, evangelical organizations expounding the death penalty for adultery and the demise of the U.S. Constitution for a new world order governed solely by the Bible, as Foy has done.

What Jim Dantona will do is work with his contacts and friends in Washington and Sacramento to bring needed dollars to Ventura County, and especially to the east end of our county, to expand our courthouse, improve and beautify our freeways, add a fourth firefighter to each truck, elevate county health services, improve and protect our beaches and parks and protect our neighborhoods from overdevelopment.

Given the choice between an out-of-the mainstream radical or a local businessman who has give so much to our community for decades, the choice is clear. Dantona is the hands-down best candidate for the Board of Supervisors and has earned our support.

— Louis J. Pandolfi, Simi Valley

Re: your Sept. 26 article, “Foy declines to attend candidate forums”:

It comes as no surprise to me that Peter Foy is refusing to debate Jim Dantona and to answer voter questions. Last spring, Simi and Moorpark classroom teachers and Simi school workers invited Foy, Dantona and Judy Mikels to be interviewed for a recommendation. Foy was the first to call back and schedule an interview, as did Dantona and Mikels.

While Dantona and Mikels kept their appointments, Foy did not show up. Foy did not even have the courtesy to call the teachers, who were waiting for him for more than an hour, to say he was not coming.

I think it is time to ask, what is Foy hiding? Why is he afraid to speak to voters? I personally will be voting for Dantona. Dantona is not afraid to engage voters, and he knows how to keep his appointments. The people of Simi Valley and Moorpark deserve a supervisor who will engage the people, not hide from them.

— Arleigh Kidd, Simi Valley

And the slimefest continues. Apparently the Dantona Gang is not bothered by inconvenient things, such as truth and facts. Repeating the same accusations over and over does not make something true. Nevertheless, the Team Dantona continues to turn a blind eye to Dantona's bankruptcies and to his own questionable use of paid family members in his charity. You give a free pass to your guy but then have to dig up dirt on the most minor things or simply make things up in a desperate attempt to resusitate a dying campaign. No wonder you guys have no credibility with voters. Its precisely this sort of unethical, irresponsible behavior that is going to result in your candidate getting clobbered in November. But I guess there is no point in having a rational discussion with irrational people. After all, we'll see who is right on November 7. All I ask is that Dantona's disciples not whine when it's all over.

Bubba,

To quote a great American President: "There you go again . . ."

Actually, the only question remaining for me is whether or not THE STAR actually DID speak to Schilling at the FTB or whether it simply "borrowed" those responses from a third party, after being assured they were indeed straight from Schilling's, et al's mouths. I can't underestimate the importance of the answer.

Funny how you guys jumped all over the "facts" from a paid political ad, yet the Star does an investigative report that debunks those claims and you now question the integrity of the newspaper. It seems that you guys are going to keep making the same accusations regardless of facts or truth. An investigative article from an independent new organization is far more credible than the information from a political attack ad. You guys are simply desperate to believe what it is you want to believe, and your repeated willingness to twist the truth is why you Dantona guys don't have any credibility.

Do you still believe Fox News, BK? I thought so.

Hey Gary, do you still believe everything you hear from Michael Moore, moveon.org, teacher's unions, and the DNC? I guess so. That explains why you can't differentiate between a political attack ad and an investigative report.

Thanks for equating Michael Moore with teacher's unions.

That is a nice way for you to support local teachers.

Typical Dantona playbook tactics. You guys are cornered and your latest smear attack ad has been debunked, so you lash out and attack in every direction. It is unbelievable that you Dantona cult members will continue to stand behind a discredited political attack ad, even when it is apparent to everyone in this community that it is full of misinformation and lies. Nice work making your candidate look like a total clown.

There's more than one type of political extremist, BK, and you are one of those counter productive types that refuse to ask questions, who kow-tow to whoever's in the lead at the moment and who can't tolerate hearing anything that might jeopardize their narrow world view. I've never seen anyone work so hard to put a stop to a political debate as you have.

I think the two should debate. Then the video could be posted on thsi website. BK, do you think it would be for the best of the community for there to be a debate?

Debates!

If Mr Foy would state his position on the various issues facing our Community there'd probably be no pressing need for a debate because the Voters would have been informed. But Mr Foys has been sending out mailers that state he's against over development, even though we know he is against all zoning regulations. He claims to want to protect the hillsides but he's alrady campaigned for unrestricted building of power plants and transmission towers through parks and public lands. He says he's a capable administrator that can take responsibility for managing the County's financial affairs yet he failed to file his own Foundation's tax returns for four years and only did so after having his Foundation suspeneded. He claims to be a big supporter of public safety yet he's already told us he'll cut police, fire and health budgets in an effort to put a stop to immigration. Yes, that doesn't make sense but this is what he's told us.

So WHERE does Mr Foy really stand on these issues? He's contradicted himself so much it makes your head spin. At this point Mr FlipFlop Foy either has to debate his opponent and explain to the Voters what he believes in or he should remove himself from the race.

Why is it when someone deabtes the facts according to Bubba "I don't like either candidate" Kidd, he still calls them lies. Does it ever occur to you that perhaps a newspaper didn't get the story right? Didn't do it's homework? Doesn't understand the issue?

Possibly you don't understand it either and hate Dantona so much that you cannot possibly consider an alternative position on this poorly investigated story.

By the way - I got a mailer focusing on Dantona's positions - something you have blasted Dantona for not providing. I haven't heard you say a word in this regard. Words like "refreshing" "candid" "strong" or even "not bad" or "it's about time."

Or you could throw out your standard mantra, "slick lies," "smear" "playbook" "he's no Judy Mikels (rest in peace)."

Looking for any response that isn't your typical defensive spin.

Positions??? Boy, I'd almost forgot about the candidates' positions on the issues. Actually, what I forgot was that Mr Foy doesn't HAVE any positions...other than the one's he's adopted from the former Supervisor. You know. Mega expansion of the landfill that will add about 3500 garbage trucks to the 118 & 23 Frwys each day. Creation of a new transient community up in Tapo Canyon Park. More over development. Selling off the County's profit-making hospital to privateers. More over development. Secret, back door deals. Another four years of a supervisor that can't be reached by the public. What ARE Mr Foy's positions besides these?

Just because Foy hasn't told you his positions doesn't mean he doesn't have issues. He shares them with the people he talks to!

He just doesn't want to say things in public and make everythign he says political.

BS not GS:

Are you serious?

Do you really expect people to believe that Foy, a candidate for public office has issues, but only shares them with those he talks to in private, and not with the public cause he doesn't want everything he says to be political??

The only thing that's less transparent than Foy's public positions on the issues are his murky ethics. After reading recent news accounts of Foy's sloppy and negligent misadministration of a charity which bears his name, he'll never get a contribution from me.

And, after reading his disprectful comments about the League of Women Voters, and his cowardly refusal to debate Jim Dantona, he'll never get my vote.

By acts of both commission and omission, Foy has demonstrated why he can't be trusted with either the public's confidence or it's money.

Alexi

Mr FlipFlop Foy doesn't want his positions to become POLITICIZED??!! Then THAT would account for why he told only a small, intimate group of extremist politicians and their developer friends about his future plans...should he become the next Supervisor. Those plans include selling the prefit-making County hospital to a private group (probably a group of political insiders). They also include picking up where Judy Mikels left off in the quest to level the hills and cover them up with cookie-cutter homes and a mini strip mall on every corner, and to make sure that the local landfill expands to make Simi Valley the nation's Number One Junk Yard. Mr FlipFlop Foy's plans also include cutting police & health service budgets because they spend too much time on arresting illegal alien offenders and vaccinating illegal alien kids. Remember THAT next time your 911 call is put on hold or your kids come down with a once easily-controlled contagious disease simply because Mr FlipFlop Foy doesn't understand what he's talking about.

Yeah! We're going to POLITICIZE what Mr FlipFlop Foy has to say because he shouldn't get away with hiding his politics. He's an extremist politician with an extremist agenda. That sort of NeoCon politics has placed this Nation on a path to ruin and we don't want his sort in our Community. Political centrists of all parties are drawing a line on November 7.

Do you Dantona guys listen to yourselves? You continue to desperately question the credibility of the Star and whether they got their facts right in investigating the Foy charity, but the only "facts" that you have on your side are from a paid political attack ad. Sorry, but an investigative report trumps a political ad every time. And the burden of proof is on you to prove your accusations, not the other way around. You guys like to smear everyone who disagrees with you and then demand that they prove the charges untrue. That's just slimy and dishonest, which is a reflection on Jim Dantona and his supporters. Until you guys learn to act with some ethics you will have no credibility with voters, which is why your candidate is losing big to a political unknown. It speaks volumes that people in this community would rather elect someone they don't know anything about than elect a dirtbag like Jim Dantona.

FACT: Of all the charges against Mikels by her opponents EVERY ONE OF THEM proved to be legitimate concerns even while your "investigative reporters" held back or refused to cover those charges until AFTER they were proven. Landfill expansion. Absenteeism. Musical staff. Pro-Development. etc etc.

Now we're dealing with the same problem. Mr Foy's extremist connections. His Pro-development position. His plans to punish County offices for an illegal immigration problem that HIS Washington friends have caused. His ties to an organization that makes Abramoff, Ney, Delay, Robertson, Norquist, Falwell and a host of other criminals or wackos his supporters and colleagues. His failure to manage his foundation. His offer of legislative employment in return for securing votes. etc etc. Can we expect an airing of those charges? Hardly.

SO BK, don't dare talk about credibility. You have none and neither does your candidate, Mr FlipFlop Foy.

Bubba -- You crack me up. The conservatives ALWAYS whine about the bias of the "liberal media"... until something supports your own candidate, and the tune is: "It's in the paper! It's written IN INK! It's gospel now."

As for "BS not GS"... does he understand that we live in a democracy? Foy refuses to debate; he's afraid that his stances are going to become election issues!!!??? If you're afraid that what you say as a candidate may become an election issue... perhaps democracy is not your preferred form of government.

Maybe we should choose our candidates based on who wears the bigger hat! Or which candidate is a better pole-vaulter! Or what their favorite TV show is!

Bubba,
Did you get the last mailer from the Dantona Campaign? If so, what did you think of his "First 100 Days"? and if you didn't get the piece, may I send you one? You always seem to protect Mr. Foy, and complain that we always send out "slick attack" ads on Mr. Foy, so how about it??? I don't think anyone in the Dantona camp really wants to beat up on Mr. foy, but we would like to know and understand where he is coming from. Don't you believe that all residents that he wants to serve should have access to that information?

Bubba,
Did you get the last mailer from the Dantona Campaign? If so, what did you think of his "First 100 Days"? and if you didn't get the piece, may I send you one? You always seem to protect Mr. Foy, and complain that we always send out "slick attack" ads on Mr. Foy, so how about it??? I don't think anyone in the Dantona camp really wants to beat up on Mr. Foy, but we would like to know and understand where he is coming from. Don't you believe that all residents that he wants to serve should have access to that information?

Get real Gary. The charges that the Dantona camp made up against Mikels were not facts as you claim. Many of those accusations where highly questionable and very slanted. For instance Dantona claimed that Judy Mikels lived out of state, yet his only proof is that she owned a home in Tucson. I also happen to own a home out of state, does that PROVE that I don't live in Ventura County? According to Dantona it does. That is precisely the type of ridiculous reasoning that you guys rely on to make your allegations. Your WMI allegations were also based primarily on conjecture and insinuation, with no real evidence to back them up. You did a total smear job on Mikels with no real proof of anything. It is one thing to disagree with the position of a incumbent, but quite another to smear the person without real proof.

And that is precisely what I see now being done to Foy. You guys keep trying to paint him as an extremist based on non-existant evidence. Your full page ad was discredited by the Star and shown to be full of distortions and incorrect information. Yet you still scream the same accusation as if they are facts. FYI, you have the burden of proof, not the other way around. All your accusations about Foy's charities have been shown to be false and the only "facts" that you can cite come from a paid political attack ad. THOSE ARE NOT FACTS. Grow a brain Gary, or at least take a class in ethics.

As long as the Dantona camp continues to act in such an unethical manner there is no point in me taking him seriously as a candidate. This is not the kind of person I want representing me for the 4th District.

Barbra,

I've read the Dantona mailers. At this point I don't care what he has to say. If he and his supporters are willing to use lies and dirty tricks to get into office I have no reason to take anything he says at face value. As far as I'm concerned he is slime and does not have the ethics and character for public office.

Bubba,

Take a cold shower, drink eight ounces of prune juice and get a good night's sleep tonight.

I fear for your blood pressure.

No worries Garibaldi, I'm just calling it the way I see it. Actually I will kind of enjoy watching Dantona get thumped in November. Pushing the buttons of his supporters and watching them squirm and desperately lash out in all directions is also proving to be quite entertaining as well. I'll have to get some Jiffy Pop for November 7 since it will be fun to watch the final implosion.

So interesting to listen to Bubba. So concerned about issues...so concerned about transparancy... then when you are provided what you ask, you reveal the real you, "I couldn't care what he says."

You are the one who smears...

"Slime, unethical, lies" blah blah blah

I know GS and Garabaldi enjoy your repetitive rantings but some of us "couldn't care what you say."

When this race began, I didn't know much about Dantona or Foy. I did know I hated Mikels. Since we will never know anything about Foy - you alone have convinced me that Dantona is competitor who desrves my respect.

You are a bitter Mikels groupie and a partisan sheep who must have been beaten by Dantona before. You couldn't handle it then - you can't handle it now.

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

Bubba,

I was not really worried as I recognize your passive-agressive style of verbal combat from your days with the Mikels campaign, know what you mean when you say that you are ". . . shocked! Shocked!" (ala Captain Renault from Casablanca) and can appreciate whatever personal stake you feel you have in this election beyond basic a civics lesson for the rest of us.

I just thought I would try to lighten it up a bit, but perhaps I should have known better.

Bubba,
Sorry you feel that way. I actually thought that you were a person of reason and fairness. However, see from the tone of your comments that you are a very bitter and unhappy soul. I hope you find peace with yourself. :(

I'm disappointed in that comment Barbra. I've been very supportive of you in the past and have had nothing but good things to say about you on this blog and in my discussions with others. I respect your right to support Jim Dantona, but you also need to repsect my right to disagree with you and express my own opinion. The problem I've had with most Dantona supporters has been their personal attacks against his opponents and anybody who doesn't support their position. Because I refuse to believe their propaganda I have been repeatedly attacked and insulted by many people, but in the past you at least have refrained from taking our disagreements to that level. But now you call me a "very bitter and unhappy soul". That is a cheap shot and very disappointing coming from you of all people. I expect that stuff from others but not from you. Perhaps I was wrong about you.

Keep up the attacks guys, it only reinforces all the things I've been saying from the beginning about Dantona and his minions. If you guys had any real faith in your candidate you wouldn't have to resort to lies and smear tactics. The November election will prove who is right and who is wrong.

"Me thinks the lady doth protest too much."

I think the election will not prove much if Dantona or Foy chooses not to debate.

Oversensitive and always on the attack, yet always accusing others of attacking - in psychology that's called "projecting." On a Dennert blog it is called "Bubba."

Hi Barbra--

Have a couple of questions on Jim Dantona. I did receive the mailer this week and just had a chance to read the ballot statement.

Even though I don't live in the unincorporated area I like the idea of creating a county neighbohood council system for unincorporated areas. Free speech and citizen led representation is important to me because I believe it keeps our government officials accountable. Do you happen to know what sort of support Dantona has from the other four leaders in seeing this through? Are people like Linda Parks or Steve Bennett interested in such a reform?

Also, I notice meetings always occur during the day with the county. Is there any plans to change that, so normal working people can go to the meetings?

Also, Mr. Dantona states that he will "stop wasteful spending by refusing department increases without mandatory performance audits?"

I know you have to fit a lot on limited number of words in a ballot statement, but can we get some elaboration. I recently reviewed the performance audit for our school bond and their were some minor transactional problems and lack of internal control in certain areas. I imagine, Dantona would deny any increase if such issues occurred in the county?

I hope I don't get attacked for asking some issue-based questions. I really just want to make the best choice for my community in November.

Scott, what a welcome relief it is to discuss an issue related question. My understanding is that currently the only County department with a mandatory performance audit is the Sheriff's Dept.

That is a recipe for misuse and misappropiation of funds (intentionally or unintentionally). To cut wasteful spending of our hard earned tax dollars and locate areas where savings can be recouped, all government departments should be required to have mandatory performance audits.

It seems so elemenatary and yet the taxes roll in and roll out without necessary accountability.

You are right. Candidate's statements and mail pieces do not allow for elaboration. That's why Brian Dennert created a site like this - hopefully for healthy discourse and thoughtful debate.

Does Dantona support term limits like Foy does?

I agree with mandatory audits for all departments, but the real question is independence. Is Dantona in favor of having an outside firm handle such audits and what would the costs be to fufill that campaign promise?

What about the idea of moving times from day to night meetings. I'd also like to see the county government have meetings throughout the district throughout the year.

Charlemagne used to move his government throughout his empire to increase awareness, stay in touch, and gain acceptance of his decisions. I'd like to see the county vary it's meetings throughout the county to increase awareness of the county role.

Yes, I'd also like to hear about term limits from both candidates. Particularly, how many terms would both limit themselves to and does nayone on that board support term limits already. Remember, it takes three votes not just one.

Just a cautionary note on term limits though. While it sounds good, there is good evidence at the state, that term limits has undermined oversight at the state level as state bureaucracies just waited most legislators to be termed out. I'm not sure I support term limits as it replaces very knowledgeable legislators with and unaccountable bureaucracy.

Term Limits have proven to be the Lobbyist's best friend.

"Term Limits have proven to be the Lobbyist's best friend." Then Dantona the lobbyist should LOVE it!!!

Bubba... again, your rantings have no basis in fact. The charge leveled against Mikels that she resided out of state was based on the organization form that Mikels filled out and signed when she started an Arizona LLC... when she put down her primary residence as being in Tucson.

As for term limits... they're insulting to the voters. They suggest that the voters are either too stupid or too lazy to vote an incumbent out of office -- and in a district where a heavily-entrenched incumbent was just voted out of office by a surge of civic-minded activism (on both the Dantona and Foy sides), I'd think that argument was moot.

Praise the lord that the community has an elected official the likes of Barbra Williamson. She speaks her mind and dedicates her life to the betterment of the community. Peter Foy, on the other hand, hides under a rock for twenty years, refuses to face the voters in a debate, continues to hide his positions on issues and presents himself as a farmer instead of an insurance salesman. Nothing about this man is honest. He must have distain for the voters. His life is a sham; driven by right wing, out of the main stream, radical biblical beliefs. This guy is a nut, the likes of Jim Baker. Full of hate, under the guise of Jesus and love, Foy is a very scary figure. He had better keep hiding. If the voters see the real Peter Foy, he will go down; down to Chinatown!

Emess!

I hadn't known about the AZ statement. Does anyone have access to a copy? If so, I believe that State law requires that when an elected official moves out of their district (or claims residency elswhere) they must relinquish their office. If true, then Mikels was never qualified to run for reelection nor can she keep her seat until January. Can anyone shed light on the rules....?

Bubba,
I made the statement I made, because you speak of be wanting to talk about issues, yet when I asked your opinion of Dantona's brochure, you went off on a tiraid, exactly like you were (are) accusing other bloggers of doing. Mine was a simple direct honest question, no more.
Scott,
I sit on the Ventura conty Transportation with Linda Parks and Steve Bennet, and just by their actions I would say they would most definately support Neighborhood Councils in the unincorporated areas. And yes, I truly believe that the County should have their meetings at night, affording all residents to attend the meetings. I am totally opposed to term limits. However, I do believe that every buearacrat(sp?)who sits behind a desk should have a term limit!!! The public is at their mercy. Hope I've answered your questions Scott....

This thread is specifically about Peter Foy's charity and, more specifically, the charges brought against it by Jim Dantona and his supporters. The allegations made by Dantona & Friends were made as part of a full-page political ad that was run in the Star. The Star subsequently published an article that refuted the claims made by Dantona. What continues to amaze me is that Dantona and his supporters continue to repeat their accusations and refuse to retract or apologize even though their charges have been thoroughly debunked. Instead of acknowledging that they got it wrong there are now accusations that the newspaper is biased. But the obvious flaw in all of this is it assumes that the "facts" in a political attack ad are true and that accusations don't have to be proved but rather disproved.

That is the fundamental crux of my argument, which is consistent with the whole purpose of this thread. Yet I continually get accused by the Dantona gang of being bitter and on the attack, but I am not the one making the attacks. I'm the one standing up against obvious misinformation and lies. If Dantona's supporters think he is the man for the job then they should stick with the facts and not rely on broad and unproven attacks and accusations against others. That is what continues to hurt your credibility in this community and why many voters are speaking out against Jim Dantona's ethics. And no amount of Jim Dantona soldiers ganging up against me on a blog will keep me from standing up for honest campaiging. To complain about supposed smear attacks against Jim Dantona is at the very least hypocritical, especially when you read the venom being poured out every day by you guys against Peter Foy, Judy Mikels and pretty much anybody who doesn't support Jim Dantona. You guys sure like to dish it out but you really can't take it.

Bubba-

Since you fail to accept any other version of the "facts" except those that you choose to believe - you are a gutless whiner. A rebuttal to the incomplete Star story appears above (Foy refutted the charges of course - the Star did not) but you ignore it. Nobody says the newspaper was biased. They said they didn't get the whole story.

A question about issues you so cravenly demanded is discussed but you ignored it. So what is the use in discussing anything with you?

Standing up against misinformation and lies? Venom? Have you checked your own forked tounge of late? It is oozing with self-deceiving drivel that that drips from this screen.

The Kidd always missing the point. Foy claimed that he raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for kids at Christmas over the years through his foundation. Then when he was busted for not having filed tax returns and operating a suspended charity he changed his tune and said that he hadn't raised as much as $25,000 for each of the years until 2005, immediately before he became Farmer Foy the candidate. Did he operate a successful charity for kids or didn't he? Foy continues to change the facts to meet his immediate needs. He is a fraud no matter how you look at it. Just like he is a farmer. Farmer, one should ask? What crop? Where? For how long? Foy's agenda is biblically driven and is not in the best interests of the County. Foy is a fraud, no doubt about it!

Avocados, probably. Its the crop of choice for wealthy welfare clients that get a BIG property tax write off for the time it takes for the avocados to mature....seven years or so. Meanwhile the taxpayers are forced to subsidize the lifestyles of the rich and famous candi...er, hobby farmers, who are the same ones pretending to hold the line on taxes and spending. They want to pay NO taxes while we spend our money financing their welfare schemes.

I love the statement made by "Bubba Schmubba" saying, "you fail to accept any other version of the 'facts' except those that you choose to believe".

Once again, its the Dantona supporters who can only cite unsubstantiated "facts" from a paid political ad, but then complain, without evidence, that an investigative report from the star got it wrong. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you are going to make accusations then you have the burden of proof. Making up charges and then demanding that the otherside proves themselves innocent is disingenuous and dishonest. The Star debunked your false charges and yet you continue to repeat them as if saying them over and over somehow makes it true. You guys are using the typical Dantona playbook tactics by ignoring the reality that your attacks have been thoroughly discredited, and instead simply pile on more unsubstantiated, false allegations.

That is why you guys have no credibility and why Jim Dantona is perceived as dishonest by most voters. And you guys can continue to repeat your lies and attack me and others for not joining your little cult, but it is the voters in this district that will have the final say in November when Jim Dantona and his minions go down to defeat for their dishonesty and slimy campaign tactics.

Hey, ever notice how all the pro-Dantona letters in the paper are from the usual suspects? Very clever how Gary Selvaggio writes letters under his wife's name in support of Jim Dantona and then a few days later writes another letter in his own name. I suppose that is suppose to fool the rest of us into thinking that there is a lot more support for this Dantona clown than there really is. Ever wonder why he cleverly spaces the letters a few days apart? That way people aren't suppose to realize that two letters are coming from the same person. Just like he tries to masquerade Dantona as a "bi-partisan, moderate", when his candidate is nothing more than a morrally-corrupt, bankrupt lobbiest. But voters in the community are on to Dantona and his gang and these types of deceptive tactics won't help him in November.

It's pretty much over for Dantona. Just check out his latest finance report. Even with all his L.A. money he wasn't able to outraise Foy. And with Foy adding his own cash on top of that Dantona won't be able to keep up.

Dantona's putting all his faith in slate mailers even though they're not nearly as effective in a general election.

He doesn't have enough money left to put out a decent mail piece.

Dantona will have to spend some of his own dollars if he's going to even make a pretense at a campaign. Oh wait, he's been paying himself back, not putting money in. Guess that just about settles it, this race is over. Foy wins.

BK, you love to hear yourself rant, don't you. Yet for the past six months I've never heard you speak to any of the issues nor in defense of Mr Foy's positions on those issues. Any reason for that?

As for morally corrupt, have you ever asked Mr Foy what his positions are on homosexuality and abortion? His fellow church goers all think he's against both. But if he doesn't want to explain then maybe his paid consultants will. I once said that there's nothing worse than a hypocrite.

I'm sure you saw the news about Rocketdyne. Does Mr Foy still intend to see that Mikels' plans for the site get approved for a massive housing development? Thougth Dantona was at last nite's Rocketdyne meeting no one recalls seeing Mr Foy, so we could ask him.

Now that Mr Foy's offered to carry on Mikels' proposals, if elected, what will he do to mitigate the addition of over 3000 garbage trucks a day on the 118 Frwy?

Since Mr Foy's promised to cut the budgets of the sheriff's department and health services for spending money on illegal immigrants, what does he propose to do about the inevitable rise in crime and communicable diseases caused by those cuts?

You see, I've tried asking Mr Foy some of these questions but he hasn't responded. Neither would he respond to similar questions when asked in person by one of our friends two weekends ago. And we know Mr Foy won't talk to the Voters and, like George Bush, only appears before screened audiences.

And for the record, I write and submit MY letters and my wife writes and submits HERs.

I remember a candidate by the name of Huffington...he thought he could "buy" his election too...opps, he lost!

Not much new to report on Farmer Foy. He doesn't say anything. He does speak though through the organizations to which he gives his money and volunteers his time on Boards and Committees. To summarize Farmer Foy's positions: women should stay in the house, abortion should get the death penalty, gays should be put to death, adultery should be a capital crime and the U.S. Constitution should be replaced with the Old Testiment. All this should be accomplished by running members for local office and stepping up to State and National office. Then the members should change the laws to attained the stated objectives. Wow! Time to rename Farmer Foy as Mr. Taliban Foy. With that ever present jack-o-lantern smile, Taliban Foy is a scary man.

It's like a shark feeding frenzy with you guys. So now we are suppose to believe that Foy wants the death penalty for those who get abortions, gays, or for adultery? And where, pray tell, did you rocket scientists come up with that information? Next I suppose you're going to try to convince all of us that Foy is the anti-christ himself.

Your allegations are so obviously fabricated and ridicuously outrageous that they are laugable. Mother Teresa was a Catholic, but if she were running against Dantona you guys would use her affiliation with the Catholic Church to accuse her of being a right-wing extremist who wants to put gays and adulterers to death. It is pretty obvious why most people don't take Dantona or his supporters very seriously.

You may as well claim that Foy is a space alien who is part of an inter-galactic conspiracty to take over the earth. That has just about as much supporting evidence as your other ridiculous allegations. Perhaps your so-called Citizens for Ethical Government should take out a full-page ad claming Foy is a brain-eating, space alien. After all, maybe it's true. According to you guys Foy needs to prove that he isn't a space alien, not the other way around. But if he is going around eating brains he most certainly started with Dantona supporters who don't seem to have a single brain left to share between them. HA HA HA HA!!

Once again some desperate Dantona supporters are trying to silence me by making fake posts using my signature. There seems to be no limit to the sleaze tactics used by some of these guys in their attempts to discredit anyone with whom they disagree. But the truth is that that type of behavior is dishonest and cowardly and only proves everything I've been saying.

BUBBA,
DO YOU SPEND EVERY WAKING MOMENT THINKING OF NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT DANTONA. JIM DANTONA HAS BEEN INVOLVED FOR OVER 20 SOME YEARS WITH THE YMCA, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, EVERY BASEBALL PROGRAM IN THIS CITY (BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS),VETS PLAZA JUST TO NAME A FEW, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THE REAL FACTS THEN MAYOR GREG STRATTON CALLED JIM DANTONA TO GET HELP FOR THE REAGAN LIBRARY FROM CAL-TRANS TO GET A REAGAN SIGN POSTED OFF THE FREEWAY, DANTONA DID IT AND GUESS WHAT THE SIGN WAS UP IN A FEW WEEKS. IM SURE IF BARBARA WILLIAMSON IS READING THIS SHE CAN CONFIRM THE STORY REGARDING MAYOR STRATTON AND THE REAGAN SIGN, I KNOW BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THE CITY THEN AND I AM CLOSE FRIENDS WITH GREG. JIM DANTONA ALSO IS ON THE RONALD REAGAN'S CHAIRMAN'S BOARD, WHERE'S FOY. PEOPLE KNOW DANTONA HAS GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS AND DECLINED TO STATE DANTONA IS A PEOPLE PERSON AND PEOPLE GENUALLY LIKE HIM AND I HAVE YET TO SEE HIM SAY NO TO ANYBODY WHO ASKED FOR HIS HELP. SO IM SURE YOUR BEEF WITH DANTONA IS PERSONAL SO PLEASE DON'T INSULT THOSE WHO READ THIS BLOG WITH YOUR ONE SIDED UNEDUCATED BABBLE.

Of course since you work for Foy you would love to get the word out that you are winning, but the question remains:

Why doesn't Peter Foy believe in our troops' mission?

Follow along if you can. Our troops are trying to spread democracy. Peter Foy is against a secualr government. And Peter Foy is a chicken S**T for refusing to debate Jim Dantona.

If we were to explain what Democracy was with the Foy model it would like like Saddam's Iraq. No discussion. No debate. Don't talk to the media. Don't answer questions. If you have the most money you win.

Voter support our troops. You are either with us or against us.

BubbaKidd,
You still haven't answered a single question from ANYONE about what Foy believes in or what his positions are on ANY issue. Why is that?

BubbaKidd is one for the record book. He lies and lies and lies about Foy and apparently believes that once told often enough the lie will become the truth.

BubbaKidd denies that Foy is an extremist. He denies that Foy wants the Bible to replace the Constitution and further denies that Foy wants the death penalty for biblical crimes against Gods laws.

Well BubbaKidd, how about you read some of the following documents in which Foy is identified as a member, Boardmember, Officer or Director.

Christian Identity: White Supremacy, Christian Supremacy, and Christian Nation ,
The Council for National Policy: What it Is
1998 CNP Membership List
Seek God - Council For National Policy (CNP)
Daily Kos: Sith Lords of the Ultra-Right

Foy is out of the main stream, a nut so to speak, and a very scary fellow in spite of the smile that never ends. Farmer Foy's only crop is the word of God. Indeed Farmer Foy is Taliban Foy in disguise.

Are people that refuse Jesus' example really Christians or are they something else, masquerading as Christians? A large part of the CNP believes that Old Testament law is the ONLY basis for a new national order, despite what Christ has to say. Please say you don't believe this unChristian hogwash, Mr Foy.

If you are Christian and believe that this Nation was born through the inspiration of Divine Providence, isn't it blasphemy to claim that the the Constitution is a mistake? One of the CNP's leading principles appears to be that the United States Constitution is a terrible mistake and should be replaced with Old Testament dogma. As a member of the CNP do you also believe this garbage Mr Foy?

You guys keep missing the point. This thread is not about Foy's political and personal views, it is about his charity organization and the false accusations leveled against it by Jim Dantona and his minions. I'm the only one here sticking to the topic. So you guys can slander Foy and me all you want but it doesn't change the fact that Jim Dantona and many of his supporters are liars. Just look at all the false, unsubstantiated allegations in this thread and it proves my point. I've never said a single word in support of Peter Foy, but what I do know for sure is that Jim Dantona is running an unethical campaign because he can't stick to the issues and has to resort to lies and false smear attacks to try and slime his way into office. And that means that he does not have the ethics or character to represent the citizens of this community.

The Star did an investigative report (that you guys demanded) and debunked all of your false claims against Foy's charity. That means that you guys have no credibility. Yet you keep repeated your false accusations over and over as if that makes them true. And because you guys can't handle the truth you then feel the need to desperately smear anybody who won't believe your lies and join your little cult. Well I'm going to continue to speak up and I won't be silenced by a bunch of petty, small-minded political wannabes like Dantona & Friends.

November 7 will prove who is right and who is wrong.

I think Bubba Kidd is on topic, but as there isn't a thread devoted to Foy's politcal connections it is fair game to discuss other topics.

It is strange that Bubba won't say it isn't true, it doesn't matter, or he likes Foy because of the connections.

Anyways as they say the proof is in the pudding. Does anyone have proof he is into the Christian Identity Movement? That he is a leader in CNP? Thta he has any radical views at all?

Proof, you ask for proof? Check those documents that I posted above. Foy is either the National Campaign Chair, member of the Board of member and contributor to each. Yes, there is proof for Proof.

Good comments Proof. Supporting evidence is all I've been asking for from the beginning. Just because he belongs to a conservative religious group does not automatically make him a right-wing extremist. Using that kind of reasoning would make just about anybody who attends church subject to the same kind of attacks. Wikipedia has some basic information on the organization here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_For_National_Policy

CNP also has their own web site: http://www.policycounsel.org/24508.html

I don't know much about the organization, but there is no question that it represents conservative thought. But jumping to the conclusion that anybody who belongs to this organization therefore wants to execute adulterers and impose a religious state like the Taliban seems a bit far-fetched. That's like calling anybody who belongs to the ACLU a flag-burning communist. Those are some pretty outrageous, and likely false generalizations.

Which is why the conversation on this topic has deteriorated. It is impossible to have an informed, intellectual discussion with those who rely on sweeping generalizations and distorting the facts. The bottom line is that the accusations against Foy's charity proved to be false and the claims about his CNP membership are simply insinuation and unsubstantiated accusations. I've said from the beginning that Dantona would do a lot better with voters if he would just stick to the issues and stop the mud-slinging and false charges.

Bubba, you are a broken record. How can you dare say that Dantona doesn't stick to the issues when Foy refuses to address any issues. He is against illegal immigration. Wow! Now that is a deep thought. He is for police. Wow again! He is against crime! Deeeeeeeep once more! Beyond that, he is a fraud, plain and simple. Dantona is all issues and nothing else. He doesn't hide from his past. He doesn't hide from his beliefs. But Farmer Foy, on the other hand, is all smoke.
Bubba, apparently you don't know Mr. Foy. If you did you wouldn't be so shocked and in disbelief to know how he stands on biblical matters. He is proud to be in the organizations mentioned above and proud to have the beliefs that he has. He is also smart enough to understand that those very beliefs are not shared by too many voters and his organizations have the understanding to hide those beliefs from the public. That is the very reason that they maintain secret membership and secret meetings.

Lastly Bubba, you keep referring to Dantona's minions or followers. I suggest you give some deep thought to this one question. Why are so many people so loyal to Jim Dantona? He is a person many of us have known for 25 or more years, through good times and not so good times, but always see him as a friend committed to his Country and the local community. I wonder if you, Bubba, can make that same claim.

Anyone wonder why no one is able to state what Mr Foy's positions are? Neither in the few supportive letters in the newspapers nor on this blog have any Foy defenders been able to address issues.

And did anyone notice that the reporter who did the Charity coverage for Mr Foy is either gone or on vacation? Guess we won't be able to find out if she got her quotes from the FTB or from Mr Foy's handlers until AFTER the election.

Bubba, Bubba, Bubba,....

Can't quite figure you out.
Your charge that Dantona's minions, as you put it, are trying to silence you is patently absurd, especially given the prevalence of your pernicious postings.

But then again, based on their content, you certainly work ever so hard to prove correct the old saw that, "...empty barrels do make the most noise.."

By the way, are willing to put your money where your big mouth is? Cause if you are so sure that Dantona is going to loose this election big time, then have to cojones to take my challenge and bet.

Brian Dennert is an honorable man, and I'd be happy to trust him to set the odds and the stakes, as well as hold the bet, pending the outcome of the election. If you're willing to separate the men from the Foys, take the challenge, e-mail Brian, and he'll know how to get ahold of me.

Till then, your postings and opinions, are as noxious and prevalent as that part of the anatomy that all primates share..

Iron Feliks

I am not going to comment on that bet idea but if anyone has documents that would be legal to post feel free to e-mail me.

I do not disclose posters identities as long as they stick to the rules ( don't post under fake names, don't break the law etc.)

You all have my e-mail address.

Bubba, not every person that attends church can be said to be a conserative. I think that is a limited understanding of religion. There are many area churches that one might classify as other then conservative.

Not that this has much to do with Foy but Christian=conservative or Republican. I think that is dangerous grounds and cheapens the ideas about God in a tawdry way.

Sorry to stop the brawl, please continue and keep it clean...

Brian

Brian, all I'm saying is that nobody in the Dantona camp has come up with any evidence to prove their allegations that Foy is a right-wing extremist who wants, as they claim, to impose the death penalty for adulterers and those who seek abortions. There have been claims that he wants to impose a religious state like the Taliban. There have been claims that he has committed criminal acts in operating his charity organization. Those are very serious charges, and the people who make them should be accountable to back up their statements with facts. This notion that they can throw out this garbage and then demand that they be proved wrong is absurd and intellectually dishonest. They may as well claim that Foy is a space alien and demand that he prove that he isn't. That is the type of twisted reasoning and unsupported accusations that have been prevalent among Dantona supporters all the way back to the primary against Judy Mikels.

That is why Dantona and his groupies are seen by most people as small band of extremists that are out of touch with the community and lack any real credibility among the vast majority of mainstream voters. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Dantona is going to lose big in November simply because most voters don't trust him. Allowing his supporters to take out full-page ads that are immediately discredited and shown to be lies does not help his campaign and only deepens the perception that he is dishonest. And repeating those lies over-and-over on this site does not make them any more true or improve Dantona's credibility.

From the beginning I've said that Jim Dantona should stick to the issues instead of the negative, false smear attacks. It is the dirty campaigning that is destroying his campaign and the reason why he is losing to an unknown. People in this community would rather vote for somebody they know nothing about than to vote for somebody they perceive as dishonest, like Jim Dantona. Peter Foy knows that, which is why he doesn't need to say anything to beat Jim Dantona. And that speaks volumes about Dantona's credibility in this community. But he and his supporters have done it to themselves, and the posts on this site prove that they are just a small band of zealots who care more about winning than being honest or doing what is best for this community.

Did you get the latest Dantona mailer? What did you think of the issues?

It seems Dantona has hard hitting pieces and uplifting pieces, but you only focus on the hard hitting.

Any ideas on his issue pieces?

Bubba,
I think you really need a reality check. Only those like you who personally hate him believe the Garbage you put on the Blog. Dantona has spent over 24 years working with every group in this town to make things better. Either you don't have any kids or you just don't care that Dantona put up his own Money in the beginning to start Baseballers against Drugs to help kids stay off drugs, out of gangs and in school. He has been a big supporter of the YMCA and the Boys and Girls Clubs not to mention Simi and Royal High Schools. In addition he was a major contributor to the Vets Plaza seems Patriotic to me. He sits on the Ronald Reagan Chairmans Board just to name a few. You are way off on him. As a Veteran I appreciate his help to our community. I'm a Republican who has served my country and I think Jim Dantona has earned his stripes. He deserves to be County Supervisor. So stop your bashing and find some peace. I go to church every week (Grace Bretheran) and I believe Dantona is the right guy for the job.

To Bubba Kidd, October 6th entry: Although I do not contribute to the blog, your accusation that I do not write my own letters to the editor forces me to respond. Not only do I and my husband write our own letters, but we are not afraid to sign our real names to them.

It was said by Loupy that Peter Foy is a member of the Christian Identity Movement. I think you should provide some sort of proof that he is because that is a powerful allegation.

If you do not provide proof then you should retract your statement at once so that Peter Foy's reputation should stand on what he has or has not done. CNP might be an extremist group but membership in that group is not proof he has membership in every other right wing group.

Please leave a link or some sort of other proof. As far as I can tell the only proof is that he was a leader of the christian Coaltion and was a member of CNp. Not exactly enough to prove he wants to extend Biblical rule over the Constituition, is it?

The CIM refers to those who advocate a world order based on Christian principles. It is not a particular organization. It includes groups as benign as the Franciscan Order and as extreme as the KKK. I imagine my belief that people should use Jesus' example as a model of how to conduct their own lives places me at left end of the CIM spectrum. A guy like Timothy McViegh or the Reconstructionists would be at the far right end of that spectrum. Most Christian Coalition members would likely be somewhere in the center. The CNP seems to be somewhere between the center and the far right; how far right is the question.

Right on, gs. Can't be a member of a non-organization. But as past Vice President of CNP, Foy is clearly more than "a member" who doesn't share the organization's beliefs as Mr. Bubba would have one believe.

The only assumption I can make about Mr Foy and his involvement with the CNP is that he agrees with the organization's principles: that the United States Constitution is an error and must be replaced with a Law of the Land that is based on the Bible...or on the agenda of the few powerful guys that run the organization.

When I elect someone to represent the interests of my Community I expect that person to take his oath of office seriously. To me, the pledge to protect the Constitution of the United States is the most important part of that oath. I do not believe Mr Foy can take that oath without crossing his fingers. Am I right, Mr Foy?

Wow...

First to Loupy.... How can you attack someone's beliefs and call them scary because of Jesus? That is not a proper way to debate and show facts about a candidate. Unfortunately you seem to only do what most people with no hope do---- smear others. Ask Dantona how to do it--- he's the best!

This is getting ridiculous. Why dont you all just shut up and actually go out and support your candidate instead of sitting in front of your computer and smearing others? I gaurantee that if you were to be measured up against Peter Foy you wouldnt stand a chance. Sometime you just need to understand it is best to shut up. "One can be thought a fool until he opens his mouth and proves it"

One more thing... Does Barbara Williamson acutally have anything to do besides sit on the Internet?? Arent our tax dollars paying your salary?? Well as a taxpayer I am asking.. Can you please go do some work instead of sitting and blogging all day?
Thanks I would appreciate that.
People like you are turly a disappointment to this county and the people who stand for what is good and right.

The polls will show my friends!!

Disappointed, I think Councilmember Williamson is a City volunteer who is paid a stipend to attend Council meetings. I don't think she gets a salary and I certainly don't think we own her time. It is enjoyable to read her blogs, however, and to know where she stands on issues.

With respect to Jesus, I love Jesus. My fear of Farmer Foley (opps Foy) is because he is a fraud and is hiding his beliefs from the voters. Don't confuse the two individuals. Foy is a super salesman and not Jesus Christ. Foy's beliefs are not those of Jesus. Farmer Foy is as dangerous to society, as we know it, as is the Klu Klux Klan and the John Birch Society. Please understand, Disappointed, it is Foy we fear, not Jesus.

I had heard that there were some crazy comments flying around on this blog, so for fun I looked it up. I think most of you should spend your time a little better. I've known Peter Foy for more than 18 years and worked for him for nearly 10. In fact, I helped him start the Foy Foundation. The first year I drove the truck, picked up toys and delivered them to the charity to be distributed. I believe we collected almost a thousand toys. Every year since, it has g