( A short video about Saddleback's work in Africa.)
I attended the Saddleback Civil Forum and as I said afterwards I plan to share my thoughts as they come to me.
I have read some of a Purpose Driven Life as a staff development reading group when I taught at a Catholic High School in Los Angeles County. Have you read his book?I have followed Rick Warren's recent political rise including his invitation to have Barack Obama speak at Saddleback Church before.
I know he is a leader of a Baptist Church and theologically conservative. He isn't ashamed of his version of Christianity and doesn't back away from tough questions. This is a clear example:
For those who believe that Sinclair Lewis' Elmer Gantry--and its portrayal of evangelical preachers as hypocritical frauds--offers the last word on conservative Christianity, Rick Warren cannot possibly be a force for good. I have yet to let Jesus enter my life, but I admire Warren. We once appeared on a panel together along with Harvard's Peter Gomes at the Aspen Ideas Festival. When it came time for questions, a woman stood up, proclaimed her Judaism, and asked Warren if she was going to burn in hell. He paused before responding--and then answered her question the only way it could be answered. Yes, he said to audible gasps. My reaction was that either you believe that Jesus is the savior or you do not, and I found myself impressed that Warren remained true to his convictions, knowing full well that the audience would not like what he said.
But in addition to that he has been expanding, without altering, conservative Christianity's focus on moral issues. He has talked about abortion and limiting gay rights like you would expect a Baptist pastor to do. But he has also been talking about poverty, the value of work, HIV/AIDS, and global warming. Saddleback Church and Pastor Warren are also helping to rebuild Rwanda. He does have his critics on the right afraid he is diluting the message of conservative Christianity, but I don't agree.
All of that doesn't sound anything close to Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and James Dobson type of conservative Christianity.
I was excited to go even though I was actually in the press tent and not the main building. I got to chat with some reporters from strange outlets including a motor magazine ( Suzuki?) and a nursing magazine. They give out press credentials to anyone it seems. Including people like me.
I also chatted with two men from Der Spiegel about the recent debate concerning their magazine's interview with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki who agreed with Barack Obama's proposal for a timetable for us to leave Iraq. The Bush Administration at first said it was mistranslated but Der Spiegel stuck with their story and insisted they translated it correctly.
Did I mention I like Der Spiegel? I even like saying it.
I tried to terrorist fist jab a Fox News reporter but he blew me off when I asked to take a picture.
I will deal with the candidates' answers to questions next time but for now i want to talk about the questions Pastor Warren chose to ask. I was expecting questions about global poverty, global warming, HIV/AIDS, and about faith. Instead many of the questions didn't surprise those that wondered why Barack Obama would agree to a forum in a conservative church.
A great political question that he asked was what justices would the candidate NOT appoint to the SCOTUS is they could. That was better then allowing the candidates to name drop the most popular justices from their political ideologies.
Overall, I expected Pastor Warren to live up to the hype of a different type of Christian conservative but his questions focused so much on what critics on the left would expect I think he didn't pull it off in that regard.
I was disappointed that he let McCain say he thought human rights begin at conception without asking a follow up about why McCain supports stem cell research if he thinks those stem cells have human rights.
I guess he skipped asking follow up questions so he could ask more.
I was also disappointed that McCain wasn't actually backstage in a "Cone of Silence" but instead was traveling to the site. It left the church open to people asking if it really was fair to ask the same questions of both candidates when one candidate could have ( not that there is really any proof) been briefed on some of the questions before he walked out on stage.
I will leave off with this quote from Matthew that Barack Obama brought up in an answer as a prelude for next time:
It is a favorite of Christians and I wasn't surprised that it was the verse Barack Obama would highlight to explain his faith.
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